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He is a tough kid there is no doubt, he also appeals to the wannabe street types (white kids raised in the burbs who started rocking whatever was gangsta at the time)
He was never a world beater, neither was his brother, they were durable enough to get beat on and throw gang signs like they were actually ghetto. But reality was they were just kids who hot into BJJ and MMA at the right time and were tough.
Nate never had the skills to make millions, he was a journey man, half the guys he lost to are nowhere now, connor made him.
Nick was the same, he got GSP who made him and gave him a super fight
People dont watch them for their skills, they watch for their antics,
Never a world beater? He gave Conor his first loss. Conor then went on to become a 2 division champ.
respect those wins
You're aware that many people in the MMA fandom, never considered Conor a legitimately tested champion. Ceronne has never been world class, he's a gatekeeper at best. Pettis is long past his best.
The Diaz Brothers are the definition of gatekeepers/journeymen. On their day, that can compete with a specific skillset, but the have never been anywhere near the top of their divisions in a realistic way. At any point in their careers, you could name half a dozen guys that would be favored over them, at minimum.
Explain, logically, and rationally, why you think Nate is a world beater? Or was a world beater? Conor was literally the ideal opponent for Nate. Someone who can't wrestle, who has a suspect gas tank, and relies strictly on striking. Which is the absolute perfect matchup for the Diaz brothers, who are durable, with good gas tanks, who get shit slammed by wrestlers who wrestle.
I think people are confusing "world-class" with "world-beater". Is Nate world-class, absolutely. Is he a world-beater, no.
He's the perfect example of a guy who on any given day can win or lose a fight against the best in the world. That makes him world-class. The fact that he's not sniffing or has ever been close to sniffing a championship means he's not a world-beater.
He fought for a world title.