UnderGround Forums "New" evidence in War Machine case? Gud-fk-him?

4/27/20 9:22 AM
11/4/19
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AnthonyWeiner - Met him in San Diego a couple of times, and read the hilarious Myspace (yes, Myspace) convo he had with my roommate when he was trying to fuck her. There wasn't any part of his personality that wasn't "piece of shit", and he ended up exactly where anyone that knew him would expect.

He is exactly where he belongs, and the outside world is better off without him.

So, did he fuck your roommate?

Funny thing Mack said in the trail was, "he cheated on me almost every day".

What man alive can get laid on demand like that?

I mean I get the dude was hired by a porn company but, honestly he looked decidedly average in most of those flicks.

He's no Johnny Castle - and no part of me believes THAT motherfucker could get laid err'y day on cue.

4/27/20 9:28 AM
11/4/19
Posts: 145
youarewhatiswrong -
Gancho Al Hígado -

What’s with the hatred for Christy in this forum?

She’s a whore, why should anyone respect her?  And she was not innocent in the events that led to her assault, but she is not responsible for them, Koppenhaver is.   She is also not an immediate threat to everyone around her, she is a weak woman and easily dealt with.  Koppenhaver is.  He can’t be trusted among civilized humans.  

Jebus - can we get a time out on the "whore" talk?

She was a deviant and vengeful woman? Of course - show me a woman that's not.

"She deserved to get beat down cause she had sex for money" - bullshit!

Reality is she got beat down cause she did a stupid fuckin' thing and played with fire.

One thing ultimately has nothing to do with the other.

4/27/20 9:38 AM
3/23/12
Posts: 25298
DirtyOldMan -
youarewhatiswrong -
Gancho Al Hígado -

What’s with the hatred for Christy in this forum?

She’s a whore, why should anyone respect her?  And she was not innocent in the events that led to her assault, but she is not responsible for them, Koppenhaver is.   She is also not an immediate threat to everyone around her, she is a weak woman and easily dealt with.  Koppenhaver is.  He can’t be trusted among civilized humans.  

Jebus - can we get a time out on the "whore" talk?

She was a deviant and vengeful woman? Of course - show me a woman that's not.

"She deserved to get beat down cause she had sex for money" - bullshit!

Reality is she got beat down cause she did a stupid fuckin' thing and played with fire.

One thing ultimately has nothing to do with the other.

He asked why there is hatred for her.  Most peoples’ baseline attitude towards whores is dislike, it’s not difficult to slip into hatred.  I didn’t suggest she deserved to be beaten, she didn’t.  But she couldn’t be surprised when she got the response she was looking for, or that the response from a violent piece of shit was violence.  

4/27/20 9:38 AM
9/22/16
Posts: 20332
DirtyOldMan - 
AnthonyWeiner - Met him in San Diego a couple of times, and read the hilarious Myspace (yes, Myspace) convo he had with my roommate when he was trying to fuck her. There wasn't any part of his personality that wasn't "piece of shit", and he ended up exactly where anyone that knew him would expect.

He is exactly where he belongs, and the outside world is better off without him.

So, did he fuck your roommate?

Funny thing Mack said in the trail was, "he cheated on me almost every day".

What man alive can get laid on demand like that?

I mean I get the dude was hired by a porn company but, honestly he looked decidedly average in most of those flicks.

He's no Johnny Castle - and no part of me believes THAT motherfucker could get laid err'y day on cue.


My roommate was a smoking hot, ruthless gold digger. She only fucked guys with real money, or on the upwards earning curve. Ended up getting knocked up by, then marrying, a young pharmacist.

Her messages with Koppenhaver were hilarious. He randomly hit her up on Myspace, probably from her being tagged in photos at some random club or party. This was when he was at Undisputed, and I met him there, only once in passing. I must have made zero impression, because a couple weeks later he and I ended up in the same circle of people outside a bar in Hillcrest and he had no idea who I was.

At that point, in San Diego every asshole was saying "I'm an MMA fighter" to try to get laid the way ten years prior every asshole was saying "I'm a Navy seal." I watched him try to explain the BJJ belt system to some hipster chick on the sidewalk, and she had definitely heard that routine about a billion times before.

There is no other way to describe him than uneducated, hot-tempered meathead. The guy was a total fucking moron. I didn't like being around him, and my friend thought he was a too-short piece of trash. She called him out on being a broke douchebag, and his response was along the lines of "I can give you a beautiful baby." When she coldly rejected him, he called her a whore and she blocked his account.

I didn't know him well enough to know him, but knew him well enough to have a pretty low opinion him.
4/27/20 10:04 AM
12/28/04
Posts: 32667
youarewhatiswrong - 
DirtyOldMan -
youarewhatiswrong -
Gancho Al Hígado -

What’s with the hatred for Christy in this forum?

She’s a whore, why should anyone respect her?  And she was not innocent in the events that led to her assault, but she is not responsible for them, Koppenhaver is.   She is also not an immediate threat to everyone around her, she is a weak woman and easily dealt with.  Koppenhaver is.  He can’t be trusted among civilized humans.  

Jebus - can we get a time out on the "whore" talk?

She was a deviant and vengeful woman? Of course - show me a woman that's not.

"She deserved to get beat down cause she had sex for money" - bullshit!

Reality is she got beat down cause she did a stupid fuckin' thing and played with fire.

One thing ultimately has nothing to do with the other.

He asked why there is hatred for her.  Most peoples’ baseline attitude towards whores is dislike, it’s not difficult to slip into hatred.  I didn’t suggest she deserved to be beaten, she didn’t.  But she couldn’t be surprised when she got the response she was looking for, or that the response from a violent piece of shit was violence.  


No, most normal people dont give a fuck what others do for a living if they are not harming anyone else. 

4/27/20 10:22 AM
3/23/12
Posts: 25299
BrocksSwockRanTrane_onShane -
youarewhatiswrong - 
DirtyOldMan -
youarewhatiswrong -
Gancho Al Hígado -

What’s with the hatred for Christy in this forum?

She’s a whore, why should anyone respect her?  And she was not innocent in the events that led to her assault, but she is not responsible for them, Koppenhaver is.   She is also not an immediate threat to everyone around her, she is a weak woman and easily dealt with.  Koppenhaver is.  He can’t be trusted among civilized humans.  

Jebus - can we get a time out on the "whore" talk?

She was a deviant and vengeful woman? Of course - show me a woman that's not.

"She deserved to get beat down cause she had sex for money" - bullshit!

Reality is she got beat down cause she did a stupid fuckin' thing and played with fire.

One thing ultimately has nothing to do with the other.

He asked why there is hatred for her.  Most peoples’ baseline attitude towards whores is dislike, it’s not difficult to slip into hatred.  I didn’t suggest she deserved to be beaten, she didn’t.  But she couldn’t be surprised when she got the response she was looking for, or that the response from a violent piece of shit was violence.  


No, most normal people dont give a fuck what others do for a living if they are not harming anyone else. 

Yeah, that's not true.  You don't pay attention to the world outside your own head if you don't think that the vast majority of people in the world have disdain for prostitutes, porn stars "sex workers" or whatever name that you think will take the sting off (it won't, the negative connotation inherent to the word "whore" doesn't come from the word itself, it comes from the profession with which it is associated just as the word "retarded" is now considered an offensive word despite being the technical term for a condition at one point). 

4/27/20 11:58 AM
12/28/04
Posts: 32668
youarewhatiswrong -
BrocksSwockRanTrane_onShane -
youarewhatiswrong - 
DirtyOldMan -
youarewhatiswrong -
Gancho Al Hígado -

What’s with the hatred for Christy in this forum?

She’s a whore, why should anyone respect her?  And she was not innocent in the events that led to her assault, but she is not responsible for them, Koppenhaver is.   She is also not an immediate threat to everyone around her, she is a weak woman and easily dealt with.  Koppenhaver is.  He can’t be trusted among civilized humans.  

Jebus - can we get a time out on the "whore" talk?

She was a deviant and vengeful woman? Of course - show me a woman that's not.

"She deserved to get beat down cause she had sex for money" - bullshit!

Reality is she got beat down cause she did a stupid fuckin' thing and played with fire.

One thing ultimately has nothing to do with the other.

He asked why there is hatred for her.  Most peoples’ baseline attitude towards whores is dislike, it’s not difficult to slip into hatred.  I didn’t suggest she deserved to be beaten, she didn’t.  But she couldn’t be surprised when she got the response she was looking for, or that the response from a violent piece of shit was violence.  


No, most normal people dont give a fuck what others do for a living if they are not harming anyone else. 

Yeah, that's not true.  You don't pay attention to the world outside your own head if you don't think that the vast majority of people in the world have disdain for prostitutes, porn stars "sex workers" or whatever name that you think will take the sting off (it won't, the negative connotation inherent to the word "whore" doesn't come from the word itself, it comes from the profession with which it is associated just as the word "retarded" is now considered an offensive word despite being the technical term for a condition at one point). 

Its true here. I guess you stay in some sort of bible belt creationst loving backwater?

 

4/27/20 12:32 PM
3/23/12
Posts: 25300
BrocksSwockRanTrane_onShane -
youarewhatiswrong -
BrocksSwockRanTrane_onShane -
youarewhatiswrong - 
DirtyOldMan -
youarewhatiswrong -
Gancho Al Hígado -

What’s with the hatred for Christy in this forum?

She’s a whore, why should anyone respect her?  And she was not innocent in the events that led to her assault, but she is not responsible for them, Koppenhaver is.   She is also not an immediate threat to everyone around her, she is a weak woman and easily dealt with.  Koppenhaver is.  He can’t be trusted among civilized humans.  

Jebus - can we get a time out on the "whore" talk?

She was a deviant and vengeful woman? Of course - show me a woman that's not.

"She deserved to get beat down cause she had sex for money" - bullshit!

Reality is she got beat down cause she did a stupid fuckin' thing and played with fire.

One thing ultimately has nothing to do with the other.

He asked why there is hatred for her.  Most peoples’ baseline attitude towards whores is dislike, it’s not difficult to slip into hatred.  I didn’t suggest she deserved to be beaten, she didn’t.  But she couldn’t be surprised when she got the response she was looking for, or that the response from a violent piece of shit was violence.  


No, most normal people dont give a fuck what others do for a living if they are not harming anyone else. 

Yeah, that's not true.  You don't pay attention to the world outside your own head if you don't think that the vast majority of people in the world have disdain for prostitutes, porn stars "sex workers" or whatever name that you think will take the sting off (it won't, the negative connotation inherent to the word "whore" doesn't come from the word itself, it comes from the profession with which it is associated just as the word "retarded" is now considered an offensive word despite being the technical term for a condition at one point). 

Its true here. I guess you stay in some sort of bible belt creationst loving backwater?

 

You know lots of families who have prostitutes over for dinner, do you?  Porn stars as godmothers?  Your schools embrace whores as educators? Nowhere in the world are they viewed as more than an embarassing necessity at best, most of the world considers them detrimental to society.  No matter where you live you are building your perceptions on the tiny bubble of likely damaged people you’ve surrounded yourself with.  Nobody is clamoring to weave Christy Mack into the fabric of their society.  

4/27/20 12:43 PM
4/5/20
Posts: 41
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Machine_(mixed_martial_artist)

"Mack was hospitalized, where it was found that she suffered from 18 broken bones, a broken nose, missing teeth, a fractured rib and a ruptured liver."

"War Machine maintained a prison blog during his first conviction with the assistance of a friend who typed out handwritten notes provided by War Machine. On his blog, War Machine claimed that "The oppression of MEN is worse than oppression of Jews in Nazi germany, worse than the slavery of Blacks in early America"."

I also read that he on another occasion he walked up and slapped his girlfriend at a party and when someone asked him to take it easy, he beat the guy up and then ran around the party randomly attacking guys, some of whom were simply standing there talking to other people.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-porn-party-where-war-machine-went-ballistic

Is there something I don't know that explains why some of you are defending him?
4/27/20 1:13 PM
12/6/05
Posts: 2117
He is where he needs to be. Something is off about him.

Hate his Dad died but that doesn't give him the right to be a free multi-felon.
4/27/20 1:21 PM
6/26/06
Posts: 13663
GuyOnInternet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Machine_(mixed_martial_artist)

"Mack was hospitalized, where it was found that she suffered from 18 broken bones, a broken nose, missing teeth, a fractured rib and a ruptured liver."

"War Machine maintained a prison blog during his first conviction with the assistance of a friend who typed out handwritten notes provided by War Machine. On his blog, War Machine claimed that "The oppression of MEN is worse than oppression of Jews in Nazi germany, worse than the slavery of Blacks in early America"."

I also read that he on another occasion he walked up and slapped his girlfriend at a party and when someone asked him to take it easy, he beat the guy up and then ran around the party randomly attacking guys, some of whom were simply standing there talking to other people.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-porn-party-where-war-machine-went-ballistic

Is there something I don't know that explains why some of you are defending him?

The world loves an underdog.
Edited: 4/27/20 1:37 PM
3/23/12
Posts: 25301
GuyOnInternet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Machine_(mixed_martial_artist)

"Mack was hospitalized, where it was found that she suffered from 18 broken bones, a broken nose, missing teeth, a fractured rib and a ruptured liver."

"War Machine maintained a prison blog during his first conviction with the assistance of a friend who typed out handwritten notes provided by War Machine. On his blog, War Machine claimed that "The oppression of MEN is worse than oppression of Jews in Nazi germany, worse than the slavery of Blacks in early America"."

I also read that he on another occasion he walked up and slapped his girlfriend at a party and when someone asked him to take it easy, he beat the guy up and then ran around the party randomly attacking guys, some of whom were simply standing there talking to other people.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-porn-party-where-war-machine-went-ballistic

Is there something I don't know that explains why some of you are defending him?

Because a large segment of MMA fans are clinically retarded?  Sorry, mentally differently abled or some shit (sex worker/whore).

4/27/20 1:41 PM
12/28/04
Posts: 32669
youarewhatiswrong - 
BrocksSwockRanTrane_onShane -
youarewhatiswrong -
BrocksSwockRanTrane_onShane -
youarewhatiswrong - 
DirtyOldMan -
youarewhatiswrong -
Gancho Al Hígado -

What’s with the hatred for Christy in this forum?

She’s a whore, why should anyone respect her?  And she was not innocent in the events that led to her assault, but she is not responsible for them, Koppenhaver is.   She is also not an immediate threat to everyone around her, she is a weak woman and easily dealt with.  Koppenhaver is.  He can’t be trusted among civilized humans.  

Jebus - can we get a time out on the "whore" talk?

She was a deviant and vengeful woman? Of course - show me a woman that's not.

"She deserved to get beat down cause she had sex for money" - bullshit!

Reality is she got beat down cause she did a stupid fuckin' thing and played with fire.

One thing ultimately has nothing to do with the other.

He asked why there is hatred for her.  Most peoples’ baseline attitude towards whores is dislike, it’s not difficult to slip into hatred.  I didn’t suggest she deserved to be beaten, she didn’t.  But she couldn’t be surprised when she got the response she was looking for, or that the response from a violent piece of shit was violence.  


No, most normal people dont give a fuck what others do for a living if they are not harming anyone else. 

Yeah, that's not true.  You don't pay attention to the world outside your own head if you don't think that the vast majority of people in the world have disdain for prostitutes, porn stars "sex workers" or whatever name that you think will take the sting off (it won't, the negative connotation inherent to the word "whore" doesn't come from the word itself, it comes from the profession with which it is associated just as the word "retarded" is now considered an offensive word despite being the technical term for a condition at one point). 

Its true here. I guess you stay in some sort of bible belt creationst loving backwater?

 

You know lots of families who have prostitutes over for dinner, do you?  Porn stars as godmothers?  Your schools embrace whores as educators? Nowhere in the world are they viewed as more than an embarassing necessity at best, most of the world considers them detrimental to society.  No matter where you live you are building your perceptions on the tiny bubble of likely damaged people you’ve surrounded yourself with.  Nobody is clamoring to weave Christy Mack into the fabric of their society.  


How would you know if they are good or bad people if you have not interacted with them? Get off your moral high horse. You are in the bible belt, right? You have a very obtuse way of thinking that reeks of religious hypocrisy.

Edited: 4/27/20 1:57 PM
11/4/19
Posts: 146
youarewhatiswrong -
BrocksSwockRanTrane_onShane -
youarewhatiswrong -
BrocksSwockRanTrane_onShane -
youarewhatiswrong - 
DirtyOldMan -
youarewhatiswrong -
Gancho Al Hígado -

What’s with the hatred for Christy in this forum?

She’s a whore, why should anyone respect her?  And she was not innocent in the events that led to her assault, but she is not responsible for them, Koppenhaver is.   She is also not an immediate threat to everyone around her, she is a weak woman and easily dealt with.  Koppenhaver is.  He can’t be trusted among civilized humans.  

Jebus - can we get a time out on the "whore" talk?

She was a deviant and vengeful woman? Of course - show me a woman that's not.

"She deserved to get beat down cause she had sex for money" - bullshit!

Reality is she got beat down cause she did a stupid fuckin' thing and played with fire.

One thing ultimately has nothing to do with the other.

He asked why there is hatred for her.  Most peoples’ baseline attitude towards whores is dislike, it’s not difficult to slip into hatred.  I didn’t suggest she deserved to be beaten, she didn’t.  But she couldn’t be surprised when she got the response she was looking for, or that the response from a violent piece of shit was violence.  

 

No, most normal people dont give a fuck what others do for a living if they are not harming anyone else. 

Yeah, that's not true.  You don't pay attention to the world outside your own head if you don't think that the vast majority of people in the world have disdain for prostitutes, porn stars "sex workers" or whatever name that you think will take the sting off (it won't, the negative connotation inherent to the word "whore" doesn't come from the word itself, it comes from the profession with which it is associated just as the word "retarded" is now considered an offensive word despite being the technical term for a condition at one point). 

Its true here. I guess you stay in some sort of bible belt creationst loving backwater?

 

You know lots of families who have prostitutes over for dinner, do you?  Porn stars as godmothers?  Your schools embrace whores as educators? Nowhere in the world are they viewed as more than an embarassing necessity at best, most of the world considers them detrimental to society.  No matter where you live you are building your perceptions on the tiny bubble of likely damaged people you’ve surrounded yourself with.  Nobody is clamoring to weave Christy Mack into the fabric of their society.  

You raise the most commonly viewed points about sex workers.

Not everyone is family oriented.

Plenty of sex workers have kids - I have no idea what it would be like to be the child of a woman who gets poked on camera for cash but, I've always prioritized the practicalities so, if I was provided for well and given a decent upbringing + not expected to to mop up after the bitch - there's worse ways to be brought into the world.

Point is - you outline very traditional setups.

That life is not for everyone - and matter of fact, I know far more unhappily married folk that happily.

 

Embarrassing necessities.... well, it's not really true.

A woman marries a rich succesful dude for provision of some kind?

Then sleeps around behind his back? (I've yet to meet a married woman I couldn't have convinced to get her knickers off - with relative ease).

 

And finally - "damaged people"?

Unfortunately, that's simply a construct many folk engage in as a means to come to terms with the fact that some people can make a living having sex, whilst they themselves have terribily inadequate sex lives.

 

PS - your SN definitely checks out.

4/27/20 2:02 PM
11/4/19
Posts: 147
GuyOnInternet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Machine_(mixed_martial_artist)

"Mack was hospitalized, where it was found that she suffered from 18 broken bones, a broken nose, missing teeth, a fractured rib and a ruptured liver."

"War Machine maintained a prison blog during his first conviction with the assistance of a friend who typed out handwritten notes provided by War Machine. On his blog, War Machine claimed that "The oppression of MEN is worse than oppression of Jews in Nazi germany, worse than the slavery of Blacks in early America"."

I also read that he on another occasion he walked up and slapped his girlfriend at a party and when someone asked him to take it easy, he beat the guy up and then ran around the party randomly attacking guys, some of whom were simply standing there talking to other people.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-porn-party-where-war-machine-went-ballistic

Is there something I don't know that explains why some of you are defending him?

Not defending just saying, 36 years is a little OTT.

 

You know what, the statements, "he would probably kill someone eventually" - honestly they kind of ring as being fairly valid.

Who the hell knows?

Look at UFC fighter Paul Kelly from England.

He was dealth consecutive life sentences for heroin trafficking - he gets out and turns his life around.

Granted he's just another boring sumbitch now that will never fight again but it's better than being a societal menace.

4/27/20 2:07 PM
9/22/16
Posts: 20344
DirtyOldMan - 
GuyOnInternet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Machine_(mixed_martial_artist)

"Mack was hospitalized, where it was found that she suffered from 18 broken bones, a broken nose, missing teeth, a fractured rib and a ruptured liver."

"War Machine maintained a prison blog during his first conviction with the assistance of a friend who typed out handwritten notes provided by War Machine. On his blog, War Machine claimed that "The oppression of MEN is worse than oppression of Jews in Nazi germany, worse than the slavery of Blacks in early America"."

I also read that he on another occasion he walked up and slapped his girlfriend at a party and when someone asked him to take it easy, he beat the guy up and then ran around the party randomly attacking guys, some of whom were simply standing there talking to other people.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-porn-party-where-war-machine-went-ballistic

Is there something I don't know that explains why some of you are defending him?

Not defending just saying, 36 years is a little OTT.

 

You know what, the statements, "he would probably kill someone eventually" - honestly they kind of ring as being fairly valid.

Who the hell knows?

Look at UFC fighter Paul Kelly from England.

He was dealth consecutive life sentences for heroin trafficking - he gets out and turns his life around.

Granted he's just another boring sumbitch now that will never fight again but it's better than being a societal menace.


Two vicious beatings, rape, and imprisonment... No, 36 years is not over the top. It's a little light. Hanging him from a lamp post isn't over the top. I think something like a Blood Eagle might be over the top, but throwing a piece of trash in the trash is appropriate.
4/27/20 2:08 PM
11/4/19
Posts: 148
AnthonyWeiner -
DirtyOldMan - 
AnthonyWeiner - Met him in San Diego a couple of times, and read the hilarious Myspace (yes, Myspace) convo he had with my roommate when he was trying to fuck her. There wasn't any part of his personality that wasn't "piece of shit", and he ended up exactly where anyone that knew him would expect.

He is exactly where he belongs, and the outside world is better off without him.

So, did he fuck your roommate?

Funny thing Mack said in the trail was, "he cheated on me almost every day".

What man alive can get laid on demand like that?

I mean I get the dude was hired by a porn company but, honestly he looked decidedly average in most of those flicks.

He's no Johnny Castle - and no part of me believes THAT motherfucker could get laid err'y day on cue.


My roommate was a smoking hot, ruthless gold digger. She only fucked guys with real money, or on the upwards earning curve. Ended up getting knocked up by, then marrying, a young pharmacist.

Her messages with Koppenhaver were hilarious. He randomly hit her up on Myspace, probably from her being tagged in photos at some random club or party. This was when he was at Undisputed, and I met him there, only once in passing. I must have made zero impression, because a couple weeks later he and I ended up in the same circle of people outside a bar in Hillcrest and he had no idea who I was.

At that point, in San Diego every asshole was saying "I'm an MMA fighter" to try to get laid the way ten years prior every asshole was saying "I'm a Navy seal." I watched him try to explain the BJJ belt system to some hipster chick on the sidewalk, and she had definitely heard that routine about a billion times before.

There is no other way to describe him than uneducated, hot-tempered meathead. The guy was a total fucking moron. I didn't like being around him, and my friend thought he was a too-short piece of trash. She called him out on being a broke douchebag, and his response was along the lines of "I can give you a beautiful baby." When she coldly rejected him, he called her a whore and she blocked his account.

I didn't know him well enough to know him, but knew him well enough to have a pretty low opinion him.

What I'm trying to figure out was - I mean, was he a legit Prostidude?

He got into Hustler magazine so some chicks obviously thought he was hot but - this idea of being able to get laid at will (without paying for it at least).

Sounds like some mythical folklore.

Any truth to it?

Or did he just throw an inordinate amount of shit at the wall - far more so than most - so more of it stuck, basically?

Edited: 4/27/20 2:18 PM
11/4/19
Posts: 149
AnthonyWeiner -
DirtyOldMan - 
GuyOnInternet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Machine_(mixed_martial_artist)

"Mack was hospitalized, where it was found that she suffered from 18 broken bones, a broken nose, missing teeth, a fractured rib and a ruptured liver."

"War Machine maintained a prison blog during his first conviction with the assistance of a friend who typed out handwritten notes provided by War Machine. On his blog, War Machine claimed that "The oppression of MEN is worse than oppression of Jews in Nazi germany, worse than the slavery of Blacks in early America"."

I also read that he on another occasion he walked up and slapped his girlfriend at a party and when someone asked him to take it easy, he beat the guy up and then ran around the party randomly attacking guys, some of whom were simply standing there talking to other people.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-porn-party-where-war-machine-went-ballistic

Is there something I don't know that explains why some of you are defending him?

Not defending just saying, 36 years is a little OTT.

 

You know what, the statements, "he would probably kill someone eventually" - honestly they kind of ring as being fairly valid.

Who the hell knows?

Look at UFC fighter Paul Kelly from England.

He was dealth consecutive life sentences for heroin trafficking - he gets out and turns his life around.

Granted he's just another boring sumbitch now that will never fight again but it's better than being a societal menace.


Two vicious beatings, rape, and imprisonment... No, 36 years is not over the top. It's a little light. Hanging him from a lamp post isn't over the top. I think something like a Blood Eagle might be over the top, but throwing a piece of trash in the trash is appropriate.

The logic is sound.

The reality is many many do much worse crime with much more leniant sentences.

Maybe you're right.

He was fun to watch but, glad I don't have him as my neighbour.

 

You know what would be super awesome?

If someone photo shooper could make a WM oriented one of these - except with the judge handing down 36 years in place of the lion king.

https://i.imgur.com/VzuZtL5.jpg

4/27/20 2:21 PM
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AnthonyWeiner - Met him in San Diego a couple of times, and read the hilarious Myspace (yes, Myspace) convo he had with my roommate when he was trying to fuck her. There wasn't any part of his personality that wasn't "piece of shit", and he ended up exactly where anyone that knew him would expect.

He is exactly where he belongs, and the outside world is better off without him.

So, did he fuck your roommate?

Funny thing Mack said in the trail was, "he cheated on me almost every day".

What man alive can get laid on demand like that?

I mean I get the dude was hired by a porn company but, honestly he looked decidedly average in most of those flicks.

He's no Johnny Castle - and no part of me believes THAT motherfucker could get laid err'y day on cue.


My roommate was a smoking hot, ruthless gold digger. She only fucked guys with real money, or on the upwards earning curve. Ended up getting knocked up by, then marrying, a young pharmacist.

Her messages with Koppenhaver were hilarious. He randomly hit her up on Myspace, probably from her being tagged in photos at some random club or party. This was when he was at Undisputed, and I met him there, only once in passing. I must have made zero impression, because a couple weeks later he and I ended up in the same circle of people outside a bar in Hillcrest and he had no idea who I was.

At that point, in San Diego every asshole was saying "I'm an MMA fighter" to try to get laid the way ten years prior every asshole was saying "I'm a Navy seal." I watched him try to explain the BJJ belt system to some hipster chick on the sidewalk, and she had definitely heard that routine about a billion times before.

There is no other way to describe him than uneducated, hot-tempered meathead. The guy was a total fucking moron. I didn't like being around him, and my friend thought he was a too-short piece of trash. She called him out on being a broke douchebag, and his response was along the lines of "I can give you a beautiful baby." When she coldly rejected him, he called her a whore and she blocked his account.

I didn't know him well enough to know him, but knew him well enough to have a pretty low opinion him.

What I'm trying to figure out was - I mean, was he a legit Prostidude?

He got into Hustler magazine so some chicks obviously thought he was hot but - this idea of being able to get laid at will (without paying for it at least).

Sounds like some mythical folklore.

Any truth to it?

Or did he just throw an inordinate amount of shit at the wall - far more so than most - so more of it stuck, basically?


I don't know if he was a male prostitute, gay or straight. I will say that it was odd running into him outside that particular nightclub, in that particular neighborhood.

Back then, in San Diego/Vegas/Scottsdale, places like that, any fit dude could get laid seven nights per week. Especially if you didn't have any problems pulling 5's and 6's (harsh, but true).

Being a "name" MMA fighter, I don't doubt that he was getting laid all over Vegas. Especially since he hit on anything with a pulse. Dude was straight-up messaging random chicks on social media, asking them if they wanted to fuck within a couple messages. Look at chicks like Michelle Lopez, that just latch onto the crazy.

4/27/20 2:24 PM
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GuyOnInternet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Machine_(mixed_martial_artist)

"Mack was hospitalized, where it was found that she suffered from 18 broken bones, a broken nose, missing teeth, a fractured rib and a ruptured liver."

"War Machine maintained a prison blog during his first conviction with the assistance of a friend who typed out handwritten notes provided by War Machine. On his blog, War Machine claimed that "The oppression of MEN is worse than oppression of Jews in Nazi germany, worse than the slavery of Blacks in early America"."

I also read that he on another occasion he walked up and slapped his girlfriend at a party and when someone asked him to take it easy, he beat the guy up and then ran around the party randomly attacking guys, some of whom were simply standing there talking to other people.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-porn-party-where-war-machine-went-ballistic

Is there something I don't know that explains why some of you are defending him?

Not defending just saying, 36 years is a little OTT.

 

You know what, the statements, "he would probably kill someone eventually" - honestly they kind of ring as being fairly valid.

Who the hell knows?

Look at UFC fighter Paul Kelly from England.

He was dealth consecutive life sentences for heroin trafficking - he gets out and turns his life around.

Granted he's just another boring sumbitch now that will never fight again but it's better than being a societal menace.


Two vicious beatings, rape, and imprisonment... No, 36 years is not over the top. It's a little light. Hanging him from a lamp post isn't over the top. I think something like a Blood Eagle might be over the top, but throwing a piece of trash in the trash is appropriate.

The logic is sound.

The reality is many many do much worse crime with much more leniant sentences.

Maybe you're right.

He was fun to watch but, glad I don't have him as my neighbour.

 

You know what would be super awesome?

If someone photo shooper could make a WM oriented one of these - except with the judge handing down 36 years in place of the lion king.

https://i.imgur.com/VzuZtL5.jpg


LOL
4/27/20 2:30 PM
12/30/03
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GuyOnInternet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Machine_(mixed_martial_artist)

"Mack was hospitalized, where it was found that she suffered from 18 broken bones, a broken nose, missing teeth, a fractured rib and a ruptured liver."

"War Machine maintained a prison blog during his first conviction with the assistance of a friend who typed out handwritten notes provided by War Machine. On his blog, War Machine claimed that "The oppression of MEN is worse than oppression of Jews in Nazi germany, worse than the slavery of Blacks in early America"."

I also read that he on another occasion he walked up and slapped his girlfriend at a party and when someone asked him to take it easy, he beat the guy up and then ran around the party randomly attacking guys, some of whom were simply standing there talking to other people.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-porn-party-where-war-machine-went-ballistic

Is there something I don't know that explains why some of you are defending him?

Not defending just saying, 36 years is a little OTT.

 

You know what, the statements, "he would probably kill someone eventually" - honestly they kind of ring as being fairly valid.

Who the hell knows?

Look at UFC fighter Paul Kelly from England.

He was dealth consecutive life sentences for heroin trafficking - he gets out and turns his life around.

Granted he's just another boring sumbitch now that will never fight again but it's better than being a societal menace.

Moving drugs requires logic, rational thought and the ability to plan and evaluate. Under the right circumstances. Although illegal, it's operated much like any other legitimate business and requires savvy and intelligence to navigate. 

 

Multiple cases of violence display both emotional and mental instability that is very unlikely to change if you're still doing it in your late twenties and thirties. Even the dude's who "find god" still have that switch and will still unleash a beating once it's triggered.  

 

You can't compare the two as they aren't the same. 

Edited: 4/27/20 2:32 PM
3/23/12
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youarewhatiswrong -
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What’s with the hatred for Christy in this forum?

She’s a whore, why should anyone respect her?  And she was not innocent in the events that led to her assault, but she is not responsible for them, Koppenhaver is.   She is also not an immediate threat to everyone around her, she is a weak woman and easily dealt with.  Koppenhaver is.  He can’t be trusted among civilized humans.  

Jebus - can we get a time out on the "whore" talk?

She was a deviant and vengeful woman? Of course - show me a woman that's not.

"She deserved to get beat down cause she had sex for money" - bullshit!

Reality is she got beat down cause she did a stupid fuckin' thing and played with fire.

One thing ultimately has nothing to do with the other.

He asked why there is hatred for her.  Most peoples’ baseline attitude towards whores is dislike, it’s not difficult to slip into hatred.  I didn’t suggest she deserved to be beaten, she didn’t.  But she couldn’t be surprised when she got the response she was looking for, or that the response from a violent piece of shit was violence.  

 

No, most normal people dont give a fuck what others do for a living if they are not harming anyone else. 

Yeah, that's not true.  You don't pay attention to the world outside your own head if you don't think that the vast majority of people in the world have disdain for prostitutes, porn stars "sex workers" or whatever name that you think will take the sting off (it won't, the negative connotation inherent to the word "whore" doesn't come from the word itself, it comes from the profession with which it is associated just as the word "retarded" is now considered an offensive word despite being the technical term for a condition at one point). 

Its true here. I guess you stay in some sort of bible belt creationst loving backwater?

 

You know lots of families who have prostitutes over for dinner, do you?  Porn stars as godmothers?  Your schools embrace whores as educators? Nowhere in the world are they viewed as more than an embarassing necessity at best, most of the world considers them detrimental to society.  No matter where you live you are building your perceptions on the tiny bubble of likely damaged people you’ve surrounded yourself with.  Nobody is clamoring to weave Christy Mack into the fabric of their society.  

 

How would you know if they are good or bad people if you have not interacted with them? Get off your moral high horse. You are in the bible belt, right? You have a very obtuse way of thinking that reeks of religious hypocrisy.

I’m not in the bible belt nor religious, I just dont live in a fantasy  world or believe that everyone thinks the same way the small circle of derelicts around me do.  I’m sure you didnt jump all over Trump for paying porn stars for sex, right?

4/27/20 3:12 PM
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BrocksSwockRanTrane_onShane -
youarewhatiswrong - 
DirtyOldMan -
youarewhatiswrong -
Gancho Al Hígado -

What’s with the hatred for Christy in this forum?

She’s a whore, why should anyone respect her?  And she was not innocent in the events that led to her assault, but she is not responsible for them, Koppenhaver is.   She is also not an immediate threat to everyone around her, she is a weak woman and easily dealt with.  Koppenhaver is.  He can’t be trusted among civilized humans.  

Jebus - can we get a time out on the "whore" talk?

She was a deviant and vengeful woman? Of course - show me a woman that's not.

"She deserved to get beat down cause she had sex for money" - bullshit!

Reality is she got beat down cause she did a stupid fuckin' thing and played with fire.

One thing ultimately has nothing to do with the other.

He asked why there is hatred for her.  Most peoples’ baseline attitude towards whores is dislike, it’s not difficult to slip into hatred.  I didn’t suggest she deserved to be beaten, she didn’t.  But she couldn’t be surprised when she got the response she was looking for, or that the response from a violent piece of shit was violence.  

 

No, most normal people dont give a fuck what others do for a living if they are not harming anyone else. 

Yeah, that's not true.  You don't pay attention to the world outside your own head if you don't think that the vast majority of people in the world have disdain for prostitutes, porn stars "sex workers" or whatever name that you think will take the sting off (it won't, the negative connotation inherent to the word "whore" doesn't come from the word itself, it comes from the profession with which it is associated just as the word "retarded" is now considered an offensive word despite being the technical term for a condition at one point). 

Its true here. I guess you stay in some sort of bible belt creationst loving backwater?

 

You know lots of families who have prostitutes over for dinner, do you?  Porn stars as godmothers?  Your schools embrace whores as educators? Nowhere in the world are they viewed as more than an embarassing necessity at best, most of the world considers them detrimental to society.  No matter where you live you are building your perceptions on the tiny bubble of likely damaged people you’ve surrounded yourself with.  Nobody is clamoring to weave Christy Mack into the fabric of their society.  

You raise the most commonly viewed points about sex workers.

Not everyone is family oriented.

Plenty of sex workers have kids - I have no idea what it would be like to be the child of a woman who gets poked on camera for cash but, I've always prioritized the practicalities so, if I was provided for well and given a decent upbringing + not expected to to mop up after the bitch - there's worse ways to be brought into the world.

Point is - you outline very traditional setups.

That life is not for everyone - and matter of fact, I know far more unhappily married folk that happily.

 

Embarrassing necessities.... well, it's not really true.

A woman marries a rich succesful dude for provision of some kind?

Then sleeps around behind his back? (I've yet to meet a married woman I couldn't have convinced to get her knickers off - with relative ease).

 

And finally - "damaged people"?

Unfortunately, that's simply a construct many folk engage in as a means to come to terms with the fact that some people can make a living having sex, whilst they themselves have terribily inadequate sex lives.

 

PS - your SN definitely checks out.

That “traditional” mentality you mention is still the vast majority, especially outside of metropolitan western europe/ America.  Whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant.  Just because you want something to be true doesn’t make it true.  Nobody grows up saying “I want to take dick for a living” unless somebody does something to fuck them up as a child.  

4/27/20 3:14 PM
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DirtyOldMan -
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What’s with the hatred for Christy in this forum?

She’s a whore, why should anyone respect her?  And she was not innocent in the events that led to her assault, but she is not responsible for them, Koppenhaver is.   She is also not an immediate threat to everyone around her, she is a weak woman and easily dealt with.  Koppenhaver is.  He can’t be trusted among civilized humans.  

Jebus - can we get a time out on the "whore" talk?

She was a deviant and vengeful woman? Of course - show me a woman that's not.

"She deserved to get beat down cause she had sex for money" - bullshit!

Reality is she got beat down cause she did a stupid fuckin' thing and played with fire.

One thing ultimately has nothing to do with the other.

He asked why there is hatred for her.  Most peoples’ baseline attitude towards whores is dislike, it’s not difficult to slip into hatred.  I didn’t suggest she deserved to be beaten, she didn’t.  But she couldn’t be surprised when she got the response she was looking for, or that the response from a violent piece of shit was violence.  

 

No, most normal people dont give a fuck what others do for a living if they are not harming anyone else. 

Yeah, that's not true.  You don't pay attention to the world outside your own head if you don't think that the vast majority of people in the world have disdain for prostitutes, porn stars "sex workers" or whatever name that you think will take the sting off (it won't, the negative connotation inherent to the word "whore" doesn't come from the word itself, it comes from the profession with which it is associated just as the word "retarded" is now considered an offensive word despite being the technical term for a condition at one point). 

Its true here. I guess you stay in some sort of bible belt creationst loving backwater?

 

You know lots of families who have prostitutes over for dinner, do you?  Porn stars as godmothers?  Your schools embrace whores as educators? Nowhere in the world are they viewed as more than an embarassing necessity at best, most of the world considers them detrimental to society.  No matter where you live you are building your perceptions on the tiny bubble of likely damaged people you’ve surrounded yourself with.  Nobody is clamoring to weave Christy Mack into the fabric of their society.  

 

How would you know if they are good or bad people if you have not interacted with them? Get off your moral high horse. You are in the bible belt, right? You have a very obtuse way of thinking that reeks of religious hypocrisy.

I’m not in the bible belt nor religious, I just dont live in a fantasy  world or believe that everyone thinks the same way the small circle of derelicts around me do.  I’m sure you didnt jump all over Trump for paying porn stars for sex, right?


Obviously not, why would I care who Trump fucks. Two consenting adults can do whatever they like.
 
Ironically you do think the same way as all the derelicts do, and you do think everyone is a judgement bigot like yourself. However, this thread alone demonstrates that everyone does not, and is not.

 

Edited: 4/27/20 11:50 PM
11/4/19
Posts: 150

This is an extremely weak attempt but, I have no idea how to shoop.

If anyone can do a more respectable looking version, you know - just for grins.

Like I said, I used to enjoy the dude and his antics but, I tend to agree with the majority opinion that it's prob better not to have some potential murder walking the streets.

I also don't buy in the finding-God propaganda.

If he could genuinely turn it around (which he's shown multiple times he clearly can't), I'd love nothing more than to see the dude back out, fighting and nailing porn stars.

But alas - that opportunity has passed us by.

So, in the name of humour:

https://i.imgur.com/ADonOaq.jpg?1