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16 days ago
10/6/02
Posts: 8061
Koppenhaver was a rabid dog back then. But I don't think he is anymore.



Warmachine never said he was set up because he was not smart enough to realize it until now. It took him years after the court hearing to figure that out. I don't think is is dumb anymore.

Nobdody said he was smart. He obviously wasn't. Mack was 3 steps ahead of him.

16 days ago
1/7/09
Posts: 4545
RenatoCocopreta -
KingMartyrJack - 
RenatoCocopreta - He was railroaded. He did a terrible thing and deserved a long sentence but not life over a whore.

Ah yes.
I remember when this case happened here and even before - there wer scumbags on this site who loved and defended him.
I'm guessing thsi is one of those scumbags.


I stand for the civil rights of all men. You whiteknight for Stormy Daniels.

on a site overflowing with scumbags you stand out.

16 days ago
6/26/06
Posts: 14033
TheDecider - 
RenatoCocopreta -
KingMartyrJack - 
RenatoCocopreta - He was railroaded. He did a terrible thing and deserved a long sentence but not life over a whore.

Ah yes.
I remember when this case happened here and even before - there wer scumbags on this site who loved and defended him.
I'm guessing thsi is one of those scumbags.


I stand for the civil rights of all men. You whiteknight for Stormy Daniels.

on a site overflowing with scumbags you stand out.


It took you two months and an alt account to mount that comeback? You shouldn't have bothered, unless you are totally oblivious to the fact that you're legally an imbecile.
16 days ago
10/27/03
Posts: 26103
colubrid1 - Koppenhaver was a rabid dog back then. But I don't think he is anymore.



Warmachine never said he was set up because he was not smart enough to realize it until now. It took him years after the court hearing to figure that out. I don't think is is dumb anymore.

Nobdody said he was smart. He obviously wasn't. Mack was 3 steps ahead of him.


How was he 'set up'? That implies there was some sort of plan and he was tricked into something.
Her being a porn star and fucking someone and directly telling him she was fucking someone at that moment is a set up?

That argument is basically 'well what can you expect if you poke a wild animal?' ...which isn't a great argument for leniency and is really an argument for the opposite.
If someone can't make rational adult decisions and resorts to violence as a default, they need to be locked away.
16 days ago
6/26/06
Posts: 14038
FingerorMoon - 
colubrid1 - Koppenhaver was a rabid dog back then. But I don't think he is anymore.



Warmachine never said he was set up because he was not smart enough to realize it until now. It took him years after the court hearing to figure that out. I don't think is is dumb anymore.

Nobdody said he was smart. He obviously wasn't. Mack was 3 steps ahead of him.


How was he 'set up'? That implies there was some sort of plan and he was tricked into something.
Her being a porn star and fucking someone and directly telling him she was fucking someone at that moment is a set up?

That argument is basically 'well what can you expect if you poke a wild animal?' ...which isn't a great argument for leniency and is really an argument for the opposite.
If someone can't make rational adult decisions and resorts to violence as a default, they need to be locked away.

Everything seemed timed for maximum emotional and dramatic impact. War Machine arrived at the peak perfect time for maximum triggering by the possibly prearranged scene. He reacted like the whipped puppet he was, she milked it for all it was worth, enhanced her injuries with makeup allegedly and got her revenge for who knows what made her feel scorned at some point. Thats all hypothetical, just speculation and guessing I knw no facts.
15 days ago
11/4/19
Posts: 179
KenP -

He didn't kill her but if he id he would be up for parole by now.

She was in bed with another dude and was sending him nude pics telling him to come over.

She had her make-up artist "fix her up" before taking the pics of her injuries.

She created an app and sold Christy Mack injury emogis.

When the fight with the other dude started she grabbed her two dogs, walked them downstairs, out them outside, called 911, didn't say anything, walked upstairs sometime later and then began to scream.

She contradicted her earlier statements saying her raped her a year before and he was convicted on that count.

He was prosecuted and convicted for numerous prior unreported assaults when in her initial interviews with law enforcement and a nurse she claimed that there was NOT a history.

The prosecution overcharged him thinking they would lose most of the charges and hoped to get him what was offered but his defense was so bad he was convicted for everything.

Was that a regrettable night that he should be punished for? Sure. Was it a crime of passion that he was tricked into by and thru a manipulative calculation? Yes.

Bottom line, for those that know the facts and saw the trial the punishment in no way fit the crime. Call me what you will but I know the facts and saw the trial. Until you do, and dont rely on sound bites you heard, please reserve judgement.

There's communal agreement that he was overprosecuted.

36 years is fucking insane, but the prosecution did a bang-up job of painting him in the worst possible light.

I may be a dirty ol' man, but I've been with enough crazy chicks to know they'll do fucking INSANE shit to get back at a man they feel they've been slighted by.

To me this isn't so different.

In fact that was the entire point - and let's face, Christy Mack came out on top here.

 

What else is there left to say?

It'll take a small miracle (or extremely large cash injection to fund an appeal where his lawyer isn't an absolute hack) to have the case revisited - and I'd bank on the mircle before the money.

 

PS - no judgement but for comic value alone, this meme didn't get enough love so,

15 days ago
10/27/03
Posts: 26127
Christy Mack really is a manipulative genius.
She pulled off a master plan, of being a porn star and fucking a guy and ringing another guy to make fun of him, which resulted in her being tortured and almost killed.

It's almost too perfect. If you can't see the puppet master she is pulling the strings, then that's on you.
14 days ago
12/28/04
Posts: 32784
colubrid1 - Koppenhaver was a rabid dog back then. But I don't think he is anymore.



Warmachine never said he was set up because he was not smart enough to realize it until now. It took him years after the court hearing to figure that out. I don't think is is dumb anymore.

Nobdody said he was smart. He obviously wasn't. Mack was 3 steps ahead of him.


Top notch trolling, well played.

14 days ago
3/23/06
Posts: 6814
DirtyOldMan -
KenP -

He didn't kill her but if he id he would be up for parole by now.

She was in bed with another dude and was sending him nude pics telling him to come over.

She had her make-up artist "fix her up" before taking the pics of her injuries.

She created an app and sold Christy Mack injury emogis.

When the fight with the other dude started she grabbed her two dogs, walked them downstairs, out them outside, called 911, didn't say anything, walked upstairs sometime later and then began to scream.

She contradicted her earlier statements saying her raped her a year before and he was convicted on that count.

He was prosecuted and convicted for numerous prior unreported assaults when in her initial interviews with law enforcement and a nurse she claimed that there was NOT a history.

The prosecution overcharged him thinking they would lose most of the charges and hoped to get him what was offered but his defense was so bad he was convicted for everything.

Was that a regrettable night that he should be punished for? Sure. Was it a crime of passion that he was tricked into by and thru a manipulative calculation? Yes.

Bottom line, for those that know the facts and saw the trial the punishment in no way fit the crime. Call me what you will but I know the facts and saw the trial. Until you do, and dont rely on sound bites you heard, please reserve judgement.

There's communal agreement that he was overprosecuted.

36 years is fucking insane, but the prosecution did a bang-up job of painting him in the worst possible light.

I may be a dirty ol' man, but I've been with enough crazy chicks to know they'll do fucking INSANE shit to get back at a man they feel they've been slighted by.

To me this isn't so different.

In fact that was the entire point - and let's face, Christy Mack came out on top here.

 

What else is there left to say?

It'll take a small miracle (or extremely large cash injection to fund an appeal where his lawyer isn't an absolute hack) to have the case revisited - and I'd bank on the mircle before the money.

 

PS - no judgement but for comic value alone, this meme didn't get enough love so,

The funny part is nobody fucking cares he was over sentenced.  Except Phil Baroni... 

most people would’ve forgot about him now but losers keep making documentaries about him 

14 days ago
3/23/06
Posts: 6815
KenP -

He didn't kill her but if he id he would be up for parole by now.

She was in bed with another dude and was sending him nude pics telling him to come over.

She had her make-up artist "fix her up" before taking the pics of her injuries.

She created an app and sold Christy Mack injury emogis.

When the fight with the other dude started she grabbed her two dogs, walked them downstairs, out them outside, called 911, didn't say anything, walked upstairs sometime later and then began to scream.

She contradicted her earlier statements saying her raped her a year before and he was convicted on that count.

He was prosecuted and convicted for numerous prior unreported assaults when in her initial interviews with law enforcement and a nurse she claimed that there was NOT a history.

The prosecution overcharged him thinking they would lose most of the charges and hoped to get him what was offered but his defense was so bad he was convicted for everything.

Was that a regrettable night that he should be punished for? Sure. Was it a crime of passion that he was tricked into by and thru a manipulative calculation? Yes.

Bottom line, for those that know the facts and saw the trial the punishment in no way fit the crime. Call me what you will but I know the facts and saw the trial. Until you do, and dont rely on sound bites you heard, please reserve judgement.

His friend Brandon Sua ended up getting him double time lol.  Iirc the plea was like 18 years and War Machine wanted to fight it.  That’s what happens when you hire a “friend”... he should have taken the plea.   

14 days ago
11/4/19
Posts: 180
FingerorMoon - Christy Mack really is a manipulative genius.
She pulled off a master plan, of being a porn star and fucking a guy and ringing another guy to make fun of him, which resulted in her being tortured and almost killed.

It's almost too perfect. If you can't see the puppet master she is pulling the strings, then that's on you.

Sometimes chicks do such crazy shit out of the desire for emotional revenge they actually end up pulling the figurative bucket of shit on top of their own head.

It's called a paradox.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Leiderman

WM's defense attourney - it honestly sounds like he wrote his wiki page himself, cause it speaks so glowingly of his trial skills.

Voted as being one of the top 100 defense attourneys in the country?

14 days ago
6/14/12
Posts: 6063

free warmachine ! 

14 days ago
6/14/12
Posts: 6064
DirtyOldMan -
FingerorMoon - Christy Mack really is a manipulative genius.
She pulled off a master plan, of being a porn star and fucking a guy and ringing another guy to make fun of him, which resulted in her being tortured and almost killed.

It's almost too perfect. If you can't see the puppet master she is pulling the strings, then that's on you.

Sometimes chicks do such crazy shit out of the desire for emotional revenge they actually end up pulling the figurative bucket of shit on top of their own head.

It's called a paradox.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Leiderman

WM's defense attourney - it honestly sounds like he wrote his wiki page himself, cause it speaks so glowingly of his trial skills.

Voted as being one of the top 100 defense attourneys in the country?

you realize your ridiculously stupid argument doesnt absolve jon of his crimes, or negate them, right ? 

the crimes of that night, or the 8700 other assault crimes he committed. 

unless you think its cool to attempt to murder every crazy chick thats vindictive along with whatever friends happen to be in proximity.

Edited: 14 days ago
11/4/19
Posts: 181
Connorwinztharematch -
DirtyOldMan -
FingerorMoon - Christy Mack really is a manipulative genius.
She pulled off a master plan, of being a porn star and fucking a guy and ringing another guy to make fun of him, which resulted in her being tortured and almost killed.

It's almost too perfect. If you can't see the puppet master she is pulling the strings, then that's on you.

Sometimes chicks do such crazy shit out of the desire for emotional revenge they actually end up pulling the figurative bucket of shit on top of their own head.

It's called a paradox.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Leiderman

WM's defense attourney - it honestly sounds like he wrote his wiki page himself, cause it speaks so glowingly of his trial skills.

Voted as being one of the top 100 defense attourneys in the country?

you realize your ridiculously stupid argument doesnt absolve jon of his crimes, or negate them, right ? 

the crimes of that night, or the 8700 other assault crimes he committed. 

unless you think its cool to attempt to murder every crazy chick thats vindictive along with whatever friends happen to be in proximity.

You do realize I'm not advocating for his release.

I'm just contemplating the ifs.

Fuck him I mean, he probably deserves to be locked up fo' life yo.

Still and all, I genuinely don't believe this is a fitting punishment for this particular incident.

I stand by Mack being a vengeful biznatch (albeit a good sexworker, and I hespect that), doesn't make her different from 99% of gals that use their pussy to make a living in whatever capacity be it sex work or being a gold-digging housewife, whatever - that with the assistance of some go-getter prosecuter, pulled out all the stops and ensured the most severe possible punishment - one not ultimately in my opinion, even remotely fitting the crime.

Frankly I lose interest in mma and combat sports - you know why?

It's certainly not for lack of talent - fucking talent coming out the wazoo.

It's for lack of character exhibited by the most talented fighters.

 

What we got, fucking JJ DUI repeat offender?
McGregor the whiskey fiend?
I follow the sport so loosely I can't even think of anyone else.

WM was a hack B league fighter that made inroads via beating fighters that were just bigger hacks than him, but still a breath of fresh air cause, you fight in a cage - if you're not railing porn stars and making headlines, what's the point?

14 days ago
6/14/12
Posts: 6072
DirtyOldMan -
Connorwinztharematch -
DirtyOldMan -
FingerorMoon - Christy Mack really is a manipulative genius.
She pulled off a master plan, of being a porn star and fucking a guy and ringing another guy to make fun of him, which resulted in her being tortured and almost killed.

It's almost too perfect. If you can't see the puppet master she is pulling the strings, then that's on you.

Sometimes chicks do such crazy shit out of the desire for emotional revenge they actually end up pulling the figurative bucket of shit on top of their own head.

It's called a paradox.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Leiderman

WM's defense attourney - it honestly sounds like he wrote his wiki page himself, cause it speaks so glowingly of his trial skills.

Voted as being one of the top 100 defense attourneys in the country?

you realize your ridiculously stupid argument doesnt absolve jon of his crimes, or negate them, right ? 

the crimes of that night, or the 8700 other assault crimes he committed. 

unless you think its cool to attempt to murder every crazy chick thats vindictive along with whatever friends happen to be in proximity.

You do realize I'm not advocating for his release.

I'm just contemplating the ifs.

Fuck him I mean, he probably deserves to be locked up fo' life yo.

Still and all, I genuinely don't believe this is a fitting punishment for this particular incident.

I stand by Mack being a vengeful biznatch (albeit a good sexworker, and I hespect that), doesn't make her different from 99% of gals that use their pussy to make a living in whatever capacity be it sex work or being a gold-digging housewife, whatever - that with the assistance of some go-getter prosecuter, pulled out all the stops and ensured the most severe possible punishment - one not ultimately in my opinion, even remotely fitting the crime.

Frankly I lose interest in mma and combat sports - you know why?

It's certainly not for lack of talent - fucking talent coming out the wazoo.

It's for lack of character exhibited by the most talented fighters.

 

What we got, fucking JJ DUI repeat offender?
McGregor the whiskey fiend?
I follow the sport so loosely I can't even think of anyone else.

WM was a hack B league fighter that made inroads via beating fighters that were just bigger hacks than him, but still a breath of fresh air cause, you fight in a cage - if you're not railing porn stars and making headlines, what's the point?

guess he should have taken the 14 year plea deal.

Edited: 12 days ago
11/4/19
Posts: 182
Connorwinztharematch -
DirtyOldMan -
Connorwinztharematch -
DirtyOldMan -
FingerorMoon - Christy Mack really is a manipulative genius.
She pulled off a master plan, of being a porn star and fucking a guy and ringing another guy to make fun of him, which resulted in her being tortured and almost killed.

It's almost too perfect. If you can't see the puppet master she is pulling the strings, then that's on you.

Sometimes chicks do such crazy shit out of the desire for emotional revenge they actually end up pulling the figurative bucket of shit on top of their own head.

It's called a paradox.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Leiderman

WM's defense attourney - it honestly sounds like he wrote his wiki page himself, cause it speaks so glowingly of his trial skills.

Voted as being one of the top 100 defense attourneys in the country?

you realize your ridiculously stupid argument doesnt absolve jon of his crimes, or negate them, right ? 

the crimes of that night, or the 8700 other assault crimes he committed. 

unless you think its cool to attempt to murder every crazy chick thats vindictive along with whatever friends happen to be in proximity.

You do realize I'm not advocating for his release.

I'm just contemplating the ifs.

Fuck him I mean, he probably deserves to be locked up fo' life yo.

Still and all, I genuinely don't believe this is a fitting punishment for this particular incident.

I stand by Mack being a vengeful biznatch (albeit a good sexworker, and I hespect that), doesn't make her different from 99% of gals that use their pussy to make a living in whatever capacity be it sex work or being a gold-digging housewife, whatever - that with the assistance of some go-getter prosecuter, pulled out all the stops and ensured the most severe possible punishment - one not ultimately in my opinion, even remotely fitting the crime.

Frankly I lose interest in mma and combat sports - you know why?

It's certainly not for lack of talent - fucking talent coming out the wazoo.

It's for lack of character exhibited by the most talented fighters.

 

What we got, fucking JJ DUI repeat offender?
McGregor the whiskey fiend?
I follow the sport so loosely I can't even think of anyone else.

WM was a hack B league fighter that made inroads via beating fighters that were just bigger hacks than him, but still a breath of fresh air cause, you fight in a cage - if you're not railing porn stars and making headlines, what's the point?

guess he should have taken the 14 year plea deal.

His defense council Jay Leiderman filled for a retrail to the supreme court at the start of 2019

https://www.viaviewfiles.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/War-Machine-opening-brief.pdf

Leiderman just released information saying they had lost the supreme court retrail as of three weeks ago.

That initial appeal details the whoopings he put on Mack regularly.

Maybe some chicks just like it rough?

 

But yeah, supreme court - this is the rubber stamp.

War Machine (report details he's since also sought to legally revert his name to "Jon Koppenhaver") is officially down for life.

I guess that's that.

12 days ago
10/27/03
Posts: 26149
DirtyOldMan -
FingerorMoon - Christy Mack really is a manipulative genius.
She pulled off a master plan, of being a porn star and fucking a guy and ringing another guy to make fun of him, which resulted in her being tortured and almost killed.

It's almost too perfect. If you can't see the puppet master she is pulling the strings, then that's on you.

Sometimes chicks do such crazy shit out of the desire for emotional revenge they actually end up pulling the figurative bucket of shit on top of their own head.

It's called a paradox.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Leiderman

WM's defense attourney - it honestly sounds like he wrote his wiki page himself, cause it speaks so glowingly of his trial skills.

Voted as being one of the top 100 defense attourneys in the country?

My obvious sarcasm wasn’t about whether or not she is fucked in the head and was messing with him .... she obviously was .... it was about the fact she’s obviously not a manipulative genius 3 steps ahead of him .... and her ‘trap’ was literally telling him, ‘I’m fucking a dude’ 

People then fall back on a weird, “well he’s a dangerous unstable moron so what did she  expect?”  ... as an argument about why he should NOT have a long jail sentence.

Edited: 11 days ago
5/15/15
Posts: 1150
RenatoCocopreta -
FingerorMoon - 
colubrid1 - Koppenhaver was a rabid dog back then. But I don't think he is anymore.



Warmachine never said he was set up because he was not smart enough to realize it until now. It took him years after the court hearing to figure that out. I don't think is is dumb anymore.

Nobdody said he was smart. He obviously wasn't. Mack was 3 steps ahead of him.
 

How was he 'set up'? That implies there was some sort of plan and he was tricked into something.
Her being a porn star and fucking someone and directly telling him she was fucking someone at that moment is a set up?

That argument is basically 'well what can you expect if you poke a wild animal?' ...which isn't a great argument for leniency and is really an argument for the opposite.
If someone can't make rational adult decisions and resorts to violence as a default, they need to be locked away.

Everything seemed timed for maximum emotional and dramatic impact. War Machine arrived at the peak perfect time for maximum triggering by the possibly prearranged scene. He reacted like the whipped puppet he was, she milked it for all it was worth, enhanced her injuries with makeup allegedly and got her revenge for who knows what made her feel scorned at some point. Thats all hypothetical, just speculation and guessing I knw no facts.

Quit talking out your ass that's all you do, So how exactly did you know WM? I can tell you more about how he was a POS when I lived in OB for a couple years then you can with all the  crap you read online. The other dude I would always see buying building supplies was Kj Noons and he was always really nice.

11 days ago
6/14/12
Posts: 6082
Chael_McD -
RenatoCocopreta -
FingerorMoon - 
colubrid1 - Koppenhaver was a rabid dog back then. But I don't think he is anymore.



Warmachine never said he was set up because he was not smart enough to realize it until now. It took him years after the court hearing to figure that out. I don't think is is dumb anymore.

Nobdody said he was smart. He obviously wasn't. Mack was 3 steps ahead of him.
 

How was he 'set up'? That implies there was some sort of plan and he was tricked into something.
Her being a porn star and fucking someone and directly telling him she was fucking someone at that moment is a set up?

That argument is basically 'well what can you expect if you poke a wild animal?' ...which isn't a great argument for leniency and is really an argument for the opposite.
If someone can't make rational adult decisions and resorts to violence as a default, they need to be locked away.

Everything seemed timed for maximum emotional and dramatic impact. War Machine arrived at the peak perfect time for maximum triggering by the possibly prearranged scene. He reacted like the whipped puppet he was, she milked it for all it was worth, enhanced her injuries with makeup allegedly and got her revenge for who knows what made her feel scorned at some point. Thats all hypothetical, just speculation and guessing I knw no facts.

Quit talking out your ass that's all you do, So how exactly did you know WM? I can tell you more about how he was a POS when I lived in OB for a couple years then you can with all the  crap you read online. The other dude I would always see buying building supplies was Kj Noons and he was always really nice.

coco is a weirdo. most of us just ignore him.

11 days ago
6/26/06
Posts: 14112
Chael_McD - 
RenatoCocopreta -
FingerorMoon - 
colubrid1 - Koppenhaver was a rabid dog back then. But I don't think he is anymore.



Warmachine never said he was set up because he was not smart enough to realize it until now. It took him years after the court hearing to figure that out. I don't think is is dumb anymore.

Nobdody said he was smart. He obviously wasn't. Mack was 3 steps ahead of him.
 

How was he 'set up'? That implies there was some sort of plan and he was tricked into something.
Her being a porn star and fucking someone and directly telling him she was fucking someone at that moment is a set up?

That argument is basically 'well what can you expect if you poke a wild animal?' ...which isn't a great argument for leniency and is really an argument for the opposite.
If someone can't make rational adult decisions and resorts to violence as a default, they need to be locked away.

Everything seemed timed for maximum emotional and dramatic impact. War Machine arrived at the peak perfect time for maximum triggering by the possibly prearranged scene. He reacted like the whipped puppet he was, she milked it for all it was worth, enhanced her injuries with makeup allegedly and got her revenge for who knows what made her feel scorned at some point. Thats all hypothetical, just speculation and guessing I knw no facts.

Quit talking out your ass that's all you do, So how exactly did you know WM? I can tell you more about how he was a POS when I lived in OB for a couple years then you can with all the  crap you read online. The other dude I would always see buying building supplies was Kj Noons and he was always really nice.


Wait, I addressed the case and the crux of the setup of WM, and you chime in that Im talkinm out of my ass and then bring up some shit from home depot ten years ago like thats even relevant?
11 days ago
3/23/12
Posts: 25365
RenatoCocopreta -
Chael_McD - 
RenatoCocopreta -
FingerorMoon - 
colubrid1 - Koppenhaver was a rabid dog back then. But I don't think he is anymore.



Warmachine never said he was set up because he was not smart enough to realize it until now. It took him years after the court hearing to figure that out. I don't think is is dumb anymore.

Nobdody said he was smart. He obviously wasn't. Mack was 3 steps ahead of him.
 

How was he 'set up'? That implies there was some sort of plan and he was tricked into something.
Her being a porn star and fucking someone and directly telling him she was fucking someone at that moment is a set up?

That argument is basically 'well what can you expect if you poke a wild animal?' ...which isn't a great argument for leniency and is really an argument for the opposite.
If someone can't make rational adult decisions and resorts to violence as a default, they need to be locked away.

Everything seemed timed for maximum emotional and dramatic impact. War Machine arrived at the peak perfect time for maximum triggering by the possibly prearranged scene. He reacted like the whipped puppet he was, she milked it for all it was worth, enhanced her injuries with makeup allegedly and got her revenge for who knows what made her feel scorned at some point. Thats all hypothetical, just speculation and guessing I knw no facts.

Quit talking out your ass that's all you do, So how exactly did you know WM? I can tell you more about how he was a POS when I lived in OB for a couple years then you can with all the  crap you read online. The other dude I would always see buying building supplies was Kj Noons and he was always really nice.


Wait, I addressed the case and the crux of the setup of WM, and you chime in that Im talkinm out of my ass and then bring up some shit from home depot ten years ago like thats even relevant?

That’s called a character witness, Coco.

11 days ago
6/26/06
Posts: 14122
youarewhatiswrong - 
RenatoCocopreta -
Chael_McD - 
RenatoCocopreta -
FingerorMoon - 
colubrid1 - Koppenhaver was a rabid dog back then. But I don't think he is anymore.



Warmachine never said he was set up because he was not smart enough to realize it until now. It took him years after the court hearing to figure that out. I don't think is is dumb anymore.

Nobdody said he was smart. He obviously wasn't. Mack was 3 steps ahead of him.
 

How was he 'set up'? That implies there was some sort of plan and he was tricked into something.
Her being a porn star and fucking someone and directly telling him she was fucking someone at that moment is a set up?

That argument is basically 'well what can you expect if you poke a wild animal?' ...which isn't a great argument for leniency and is really an argument for the opposite.
If someone can't make rational adult decisions and resorts to violence as a default, they need to be locked away.

Everything seemed timed for maximum emotional and dramatic impact. War Machine arrived at the peak perfect time for maximum triggering by the possibly prearranged scene. He reacted like the whipped puppet he was, she milked it for all it was worth, enhanced her injuries with makeup allegedly and got her revenge for who knows what made her feel scorned at some point. Thats all hypothetical, just speculation and guessing I knw no facts.

Quit talking out your ass that's all you do, So how exactly did you know WM? I can tell you more about how he was a POS when I lived in OB for a couple years then you can with all the  crap you read online. The other dude I would always see buying building supplies was Kj Noons and he was always really nice.


Wait, I addressed the case and the crux of the setup of WM, and you chime in that Im talkinm out of my ass and then bring up some shit from home depot ten years ago like thats even relevant?

That’s called a character witness, Coco.


What about the character shitness of the accuser?
11 days ago
6/14/12
Posts: 6084
RenatoCocopreta -
Chael_McD - 
RenatoCocopreta -
FingerorMoon - 
colubrid1 - Koppenhaver was a rabid dog back then. But I don't think he is anymore.



Warmachine never said he was set up because he was not smart enough to realize it until now. It took him years after the court hearing to figure that out. I don't think is is dumb anymore.

Nobdody said he was smart. He obviously wasn't. Mack was 3 steps ahead of him.
 

How was he 'set up'? That implies there was some sort of plan and he was tricked into something.
Her being a porn star and fucking someone and directly telling him she was fucking someone at that moment is a set up?

That argument is basically 'well what can you expect if you poke a wild animal?' ...which isn't a great argument for leniency and is really an argument for the opposite.
If someone can't make rational adult decisions and resorts to violence as a default, they need to be locked away.

Everything seemed timed for maximum emotional and dramatic impact. War Machine arrived at the peak perfect time for maximum triggering by the possibly prearranged scene. He reacted like the whipped puppet he was, she milked it for all it was worth, enhanced her injuries with makeup allegedly and got her revenge for who knows what made her feel scorned at some point. Thats all hypothetical, just speculation and guessing I knw no facts.

Quit talking out your ass that's all you do, So how exactly did you know WM? I can tell you more about how he was a POS when I lived in OB for a couple years then you can with all the  crap you read online. The other dude I would always see buying building supplies was Kj Noons and he was always really nice.


Wait, I addressed the case and the crux of the setup of WM, and you chime in that Im talkinm out of my ass and then bring up some shit from home depot ten years ago like thats even relevant?

there was no set-up. what he did is indefensible. period. 

only a true fucking immoral scumbag would frame an argument such as you have.

his appeals were rejected for a reason. 

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10/6/02
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FingerorMoon - 
colubrid1 - Koppenhaver was a rabid dog back then. But I don't think he is anymore.



Warmachine never said he was set up because he was not smart enough to realize it until now. It took him years after the court hearing to figure that out. I don't think is is dumb anymore.

Nobdody said he was smart. He obviously wasn't. Mack was 3 steps ahead of him.


How was he 'set up'? That implies there was some sort of plan and he was tricked into something.
Her being a porn star and fucking someone and directly telling him she was fucking someone at that moment is a set up?

That argument is basically 'well what can you expect if you poke a wild animal?' ...which isn't a great argument for leniency and is really an argument for the opposite.
If someone can't make rational adult decisions and resorts to violence as a default, they need to be locked away.

I beleive we all deserve hell and to be locked away.

What have you done bad in your life? Do you beleive the good in your life outweighs the bad?

If so, your'e not alone. Most people belive that. Yet at the same time, they have a strong sense of justice and easily hand out torture and punishment for what they consider evil. As long as it does not apply to themselves..



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RenatoCocopreta -
Chael_McD - 
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FingerorMoon - 
colubrid1 - Koppenhaver was a rabid dog back then. But I don't think he is anymore.



Warmachine never said he was set up because he was not smart enough to realize it until now. It took him years after the court hearing to figure that out. I don't think is is dumb anymore.

Nobdody said he was smart. He obviously wasn't. Mack was 3 steps ahead of him.
 

How was he 'set up'? That implies there was some sort of plan and he was tricked into something.
Her being a porn star and fucking someone and directly telling him she was fucking someone at that moment is a set up?

That argument is basically 'well what can you expect if you poke a wild animal?' ...which isn't a great argument for leniency and is really an argument for the opposite.
If someone can't make rational adult decisions and resorts to violence as a default, they need to be locked away.

Everything seemed timed for maximum emotional and dramatic impact. War Machine arrived at the peak perfect time for maximum triggering by the possibly prearranged scene. He reacted like the whipped puppet he was, she milked it for all it was worth, enhanced her injuries with makeup allegedly and got her revenge for who knows what made her feel scorned at some point. Thats all hypothetical, just speculation and guessing I knw no facts.

Quit talking out your ass that's all you do, So how exactly did you know WM? I can tell you more about how he was a POS when I lived in OB for a couple years then you can with all the  crap you read online. The other dude I would always see buying building supplies was Kj Noons and he was always really nice.


Wait, I addressed the case and the crux of the setup of WM, and you chime in that Im talkinm out of my ass and then bring up some shit from home depot ten years ago like thats even relevant?

Your talking about someone you don't know and everything you found out about the case you read online dipshit lol. Like I said talk about what you know about him not crap you just read online. Drop a story about how good of a guy he is c'mon, oh wait I forgot keep writing shit about a open shut case that happened years ago yet your ass can't comprehend it Dipshit.