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7/19/14 12:16 AM
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Awesome :)
7/19/14 12:31 AM
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Sounds like they just performed a normal drug test like any job in real world would give someone.. The test is only for narcotics.. it will not register anabolics or other such substances.. the fry cook at the local burger joint takes the same test and he could be roided out and it wouldn't come up.

Maybe this was PRIDE's way of "skirting" the PED issue.. grey area so to speak. Although i would assume that foreign countries have different drug policies or lack thereof than we do in the states.

Doesn't surprise me one bit if anyone ever watched any of those events in Japan. Good post OP and thanks for the memories enson! Phone Post
7/19/14 12:35 AM
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If an MMA event is unregulated by the AC, does the event even have to test for PEDs and/or narcotics? Phone Post
7/19/14 12:37 AM
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ttt...This is why I love the UG! :)

Big English Tom Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 12:38 AM
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Everyone kinda knew juice was big in PRIDE. I always assumed it was just the turning a blind eye. Never imagined it would actually be contracted that they won't test for PEDs. Seems odd for a promotion to leave a paper trail for a stance like that. I would have thought they'd just omit any reference to PED testing rather than stipulate no testing. Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 12:43 AM
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This has been known for a long time. Thank you to Enson for finally posting proof.

7/19/14 1:00 AM
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It's kinda ironic that the only fighter in PRIDE that i can think of who ever got popped on a test in a PRIDE event was Nick Diaz.. He failed the test at PRIDE 33 for weed which just so happened to take place in Las Vegas, NV.

Any other fighter get popped in PRIDE event? Phone Post
7/19/14 1:01 AM
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hey enson. all the charity work you have done is really great. your a hero!
7/19/14 1:10 AM
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Why bother testing at all then?
7/19/14 1:14 AM
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BurnMyEyes - in other news:

sky is blue
water is wet
This, why OP made this thread? Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 1:16 AM
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newtotheinterweb - Everyone kinda knew juice was big in PRIDE. I always assumed it was just the turning a blind eye. Never imagined it would actually be contracted that they won't test for PEDs. Seems odd for a promotion to leave a paper trail for a stance like that. I would have thought they'd just omit any reference to PED testing rather than stipulate no testing. Phone Post 3.0

Why would they care if they left a paper trail?  It's not like Japan was required to follow NSAC rules.  Different country, different laws.  They specifically said PED's would not be tested as an encouragement for their fighters to juice.  Remember, PRIDE was selling entertainment, not a sanctioned sport.

7/19/14 1:29 AM
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A fighter like Enson comes on and provides some behind the scenes info you would never get in any other major sport and still some cynics pop up throwing doubt around instead of appreciating the insider perspective they're getting.  Amazing.

This is why we can't have nice things...

7/19/14 1:33 AM
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Wow Phone Post
7/19/14 1:35 AM
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is anyone surpised?, props to enson for proving it once and for all what everyone suspected.
7/19/14 1:41 AM
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quality - That little note doesn't seem like any type of proof. I can do that also. It would have been more realistic if he showed a big chunk of the contract since it's understandable that he can't show the whole contract due to confidentiality.

I'm not doubting that it's genuine, but that doesn't look like real proof to me.

It's a real proof.

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=331575537011435&set=vb.100004769742817&type=2&theater

7/19/14 1:50 AM
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Enson Yamato Inoue -
quality - That little note doesn't seem like any type of proof. I can do that also. It would have been more realistic if he showed a big chunk of the contract since it's understandable that he can't show the whole contract due to confidentiality.

I'm not doubting that it's genuine, but that doesn't look like real proof to me.

It is.  Why would I make that shit up?

Shut the fuck down by the man himself Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 1:56 AM
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The only thing you can really take away from this is EVERYBODY was using something.

It's basically the same as today, just fighters with better "strength and conditioning coaches" and access to designer drugs and constant Dr testing are the ones that know how to beat the athletic commission tests, and make the most of the PEDS.
7/19/14 2:09 AM
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JoeHurley -

A fighter like Enson comes on and provides some behind the scenes info you would never get in any other major sport and still some cynics pop up throwing doubt around instead of appreciating the insider perspective they're getting.  Amazing.

This is why we can't have nice things...

Hopefully people don't run him off... Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 2:16 AM
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Enson Yamato Inoue -
quality - That little note doesn't seem like any type of proof. I can do that also. It would have been more realistic if he showed a big chunk of the contract since it's understandable that he can't show the whole contract due to confidentiality.

I'm not doubting that it's genuine, but that doesn't look like real proof to me.

It's a real proof.

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=331575537011435&set=vb.100004769742817&type=2&theater

Thanks for taking the time to post the vid. VU

It looks legitimate. Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 2:27 AM
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Enson Yamato Inoue - 
quality - That little note doesn't seem like any type of proof. I can do that also. It would have been more realistic if he showed a big chunk of the contract since it's understandable that he can't show the whole contract due to confidentiality.

I'm not doubting that it's genuine, but that doesn't look like real proof to me.

It's a real proof.

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=331575537011435&set=vb.100004769742817&type=2&theater


Thanks for going above and beyond.

 

All this means is it was less expensive to roid up in Pride than in the UFC.

7/19/14 2:49 AM
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Sakakariba mentioned this in his interview from Sherdog back when Pride was still around
7/19/14 2:49 AM
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Gojira Ninja - Enson you shouldn't have even entertained the doubters on here because now they'll just accuse you of using and ask you to provide ten years of frozen piss to test. Anyone with a brain knows you weren't lying. Phone Post 3.0

Interesting fact:

Authentic frozen Enson Inoue with pure yamato damashii spirit piss, when ingested, is said to completely and immediately cure cancer, erectile dysfunction, insomnia, hangovers and constipation.

It's considered a miracle drug. Goes for around a million yen a fluid ounce in the underground black market of Japan.

True story.
7/19/14 2:56 AM
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Thanks Enson Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 3:20 AM
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Makes me wonder who or more specifically who wasn't on steroids? Phone Post 3.0
7/19/14 3:23 AM
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That's fucking crazy that it was in writing. Thanks Enson!