UnderGround Forums RENA hospitalized trying to cut weight

12/31/18 11:07 AM
2/24/07
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Rena had to have her fight at RIZIN cancelled after trying to cut weight and falling ill. She was hospitialized with severe dehydration and anemia. 

12/31/18 11:22 AM
12/28/14
Posts: 1568

People are going to spin this as the orgs fault for not doing something about wright cutting yet this all lies on the fighters.

 

Fight at a more natural class. Simple as that.

12/31/18 11:42 AM
8/15/11
Posts: 1013

Did she have Renal issues?

12/31/18 10:48 PM
1/1/01
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It is on the promotions.  Otherwise, like PEDs, fighters will keep doing it because it's "the only way to win." 

it's really very simple.  Ditch the ceremonial weigh-ins and have the real ones no more than two hours before the match.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ukdt9d3axexhcci/How_to_Prevent_Death_-_Physician_and_Sportsmedicine_-_1998.pdf/file

1/1/19 1:16 AM
11/30/07
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Big no no in Japan... Wonder how they will handle this since she's the IT girl for them.
Edited: 1/1/19 10:57 AM
8/20/15
Posts: 4923
Diesel67 -

It is on the promotions.  Otherwise, like PEDs, fighters will keep doing it because it's "the only way to win." 

it's really very simple.  Ditch the ceremonial weigh-ins and have the real ones no more than two hours before the match.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ukdt9d3axexhcci/How_to_Prevent_Death_-_Physician_and_Sportsmedicine_-_1998.pdf/file

I don't think it is the orgs fault at all. 

It's the fighters. Chiesa moved up to 170 and looked way better than he has at 155. Most fighters who are moving up (i.e Cerrone, chiesa, Nunez) are looking better at a more natural weight. Hell look at Gastelum too

1/1/19 2:57 PM
4/20/08
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Robert Thomas -
Diesel67 -

It is on the promotions.  Otherwise, like PEDs, fighters will keep doing it because it's "the only way to win." 

it's really very simple.  Ditch the ceremonial weigh-ins and have the real ones no more than two hours before the match.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ukdt9d3axexhcci/How_to_Prevent_Death_-_Physician_and_Sportsmedicine_-_1998.pdf/file

I don't think it is the orgs fault at all. 

It's the fighters. Chiesa moved up to 170 and looked way better than he has at 155. Most fighters who are moving up (i.e Cerrone, chiesa, Nunez) are looking better at a more natural weight. Hell look at Gastelum too

Also Whittaker and Anthony Smith. Then you have former champs try to drop and end up having moderate to poor success in Machida, Edgar and Pettis. 

1/1/19 3:08 PM
12/28/14
Posts: 1572
Diesel67 -

It is on the promotions.  Otherwise, like PEDs, fighters will keep doing it because it's "the only way to win." 

it's really very simple.  Ditch the ceremonial weigh-ins and have the real ones no more than two hours before the match.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ukdt9d3axexhcci/How_to_Prevent_Death_-_Physician_and_Sportsmedicine_-_1998.pdf/file

No its not.

 

Nobody forces them to cut that much weight and there are plenty of fighters that have shown you can fight at your natural weight or above and still win.

 

And your idea to help fighters from themselves is to have tjem weigh in two hours before they fight? How does that make sense?

1/1/19 7:39 PM
8/20/15
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Non N00B -
Robert Thomas -
Diesel67 -

It is on the promotions.  Otherwise, like PEDs, fighters will keep doing it because it's "the only way to win." 

it's really very simple.  Ditch the ceremonial weigh-ins and have the real ones no more than two hours before the match.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ukdt9d3axexhcci/How_to_Prevent_Death_-_Physician_and_Sportsmedicine_-_1998.pdf/file

I don't think it is the orgs fault at all. 

It's the fighters. Chiesa moved up to 170 and looked way better than he has at 155. Most fighters who are moving up (i.e Cerrone, chiesa, Nunez) are looking better at a more natural weight. Hell look at Gastelum too

Also Whittaker and Anthony Smith. Then you have former champs try to drop and end up having moderate to poor success in Machida, Edgar and Pettis. 

2 more great examples. The trend should be towards moving up these days. People are having great success.

1/1/19 8:01 PM
12/18/15
Posts: 772
fade2007 -
Diesel67 -

It is on the promotions.  Otherwise, like PEDs, fighters will keep doing it because it's "the only way to win." 

it's really very simple.  Ditch the ceremonial weigh-ins and have the real ones no more than two hours before the match.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ukdt9d3axexhcci/How_to_Prevent_Death_-_Physician_and_Sportsmedicine_-_1998.pdf/file

No its not.

 

Nobody forces them to cut that much weight and there are plenty of fighters that have shown you can fight at your natural weight or above and still win.

 

And your idea to help fighters from themselves is to have tjem weigh in two hours before they fight? How does that make sense?

I think the idea is that fighters only have 2 hour's to rehydrate instead of 24,  so they will want to be at a healthy weight to avoid getting into the cage dehydrated and have a bad performance .

1/2/19 12:36 AM
4/20/08
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Robert Thomas -
Non N00B -
Robert Thomas -
Diesel67 -

It is on the promotions.  Otherwise, like PEDs, fighters will keep doing it because it's "the only way to win." 

it's really very simple.  Ditch the ceremonial weigh-ins and have the real ones no more than two hours before the match.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ukdt9d3axexhcci/How_to_Prevent_Death_-_Physician_and_Sportsmedicine_-_1998.pdf/file

I don't think it is the orgs fault at all. 

It's the fighters. Chiesa moved up to 170 and looked way better than he has at 155. Most fighters who are moving up (i.e Cerrone, chiesa, Nunez) are looking better at a more natural weight. Hell look at Gastelum too

Also Whittaker and Anthony Smith. Then you have former champs try to drop and end up having moderate to poor success in Machida, Edgar and Pettis. 

2 more great examples. The trend should be towards moving up these days. People are having great success.

Im curious how much the average "in ring weight" for each weight class has changed over the years. If there is anything we have learned, mma coaches and fighters are still not super bright on average (I mean look at how many brohamster nutrition folks there are, and all of the other weird training stuff that has come and gone over the years), so this theme of heavy weight cutting that has came on strong in the last few years, may eventually go by the wayside once people realize they are fucking themselves over.