UnderGround Forums Ray Borg wants to stay at 125

2/16/20 11:32 AM
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Ray Borg has missed weight four times in the last eight fights. He even tried moving up to bantamweight, but missed weight again. At UFC on ESPN+ 25 on Saturday, he failed again, and it was widely assumed he would move up from flyweight again. 

However, at the post-fight press conference, "The Tazmexican Devil" said he hopes to stay put.

“I need to talk it over with my manager and with the UFC, but me personally, I think 125 is good for me,” said Borg as transcribed by Danny Segura and Matt Erickson for MMA Junkie. “I don’t feel like it had anything to do with discipline, I’ve learned to man up to my mistakes and accept accountability.

“If there is one thing I can say is that it wasn’t discipline, not being in the right weight, it was just the system not working for me. Everything was perfect the whole week. When I spoke to you guys in the media scrum before, everything was great, weight wasn’t even high, and as soon as we started the cut – you guys saw we took the extra hour, we even asked for more time – but the weight wasn’t cooperating.

“I truly feel like it’s just finding the right system. I’ve worked with so many weight-cut gurus, weight-cut dietitians, and I’ve tried always to pick things that I like from each one and tried to squeeze it all in one weight cut. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work that way. I think it’s just finding the right weight-cut system that’s best for my career.”

“I don’t have a problem at 135; I can compete with guys that size.It’s not something that’s out of the picture. I just feel comfortable at 125, and if I were to move to 135, I would have to find a way to get my body comfortable at 135 and not just 125.”

“It would obviously be way better if the weight went my way. But to fight in front of my home town, a lot of people say it’s a dream to do this, it’s a dream to do that, and in high school, when I was preparing for MMA, I always told myself no matter what stage I was on, it would always be the coolest thing in the world to fight on a big stage in front of my home town. So there is no explaining how this moment feels.”

2/16/20 11:37 AM
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Dude should be forced to compete at 135. He's missed weight 4 times now, 3 times at 125 and once at 135.
2/16/20 11:46 AM
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He's only made weight for half of his last 8 fights. What a dick. 

2/16/20 12:36 PM
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“I’ve learned to man up to my mistakes and accept accountability.”

Strange choice of words, considering what he followed it up with 

2/16/20 12:52 PM
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Sadly, a professional doesn't miss weight 50% of the time.

Edited: 2/16/20 1:08 PM
9/20/19
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I don’t think if I’ve ever bothered to watch that guy fight and I won’t be starting. 

You know damn well he looked at the Conor bus incident as a fucking blessing and played it up as much as he could. He got paid and he could stop cutting weight a day early. 

2/16/20 1:24 PM
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He clearly deserves the Kelvin Gastelum treatment. Force him to move up. Enough chances already.

2/16/20 1:36 PM
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It's crazy though, he did move up, and missed at bantam.

2/16/20 1:43 PM
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Kirik -

It's crazy though, he did move up, and missed at bantam.

 

If he misses more than once at BW then he should be made to fight at featherweight. It would put him at a disadvantage but that's the nature of the sport.

 

Conversely, fighters who can successfully make big cuts get to benefit, guys like Conor and Darren Till in the past, for example. 

2/16/20 1:43 PM
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Kirik - 

It's crazy though, he did move up, and missed at bantam.


He competes at minirumbleweight.

Seriously though they can't let him keep fighting at 125. It's a real problem if you have a guy who can beat 90% of the division but can't be trusted to make weight. How can you book him in a big fight and be confident that he won't fuck it up?
2/16/20 3:31 PM
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I ve learned to take accountability ....

 

Excuses excuses excuses excuses.......

2/16/20 3:33 PM
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Tomato Can -
Kirik - 

It's crazy though, he did move up, and missed at bantam.


He competes at minirumbleweight.

Seriously though they can't let him keep fighting at 125. It's a real problem if you have a guy who can beat 90% of the division but can't be trusted to make weight. How can you book him in a big fight and be confident that he won't fuck it up?

Maybe borg should have skipped eating all week like his opponent.

2/16/20 4:45 PM
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Can’t stand him, he’s fake. 
 

look at when he faked his eye injury when there was video of him rubbing his eye during an interview all day. Lmao. 
 

fuck em, he should be cut for missing weight so much 

Edited: 2/16/20 4:52 PM
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Just let him fight at 135 where he's a B-lister. He already had a title shot at 125 and got wrecked. It's not like making weight is gonna get easier as he gets older.
2/17/20 6:15 AM
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Sounds like he's not a flyweight if the weight didn't cooperate. 

2/17/20 7:07 AM
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Does anyone know if he has to give up a percentage of his win money as well as his show money? He's won 3 of the 4 fights where he missed weight. 

Must be nice for him to be able to afford coughing up 20 - 30% of his earnings to his opponent.

Edited: 2/17/20 7:20 AM
9/2/10
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He's a joke, moves up and misses weight even at 135? Fucking ridiculous, it's basically cheating at this point.

It's funny he talks about being comfortable at 125, you aren't fighting at 125 dickwad.

Of course 125 is good for him, he's fighting people at a lower weight class. Everything he says is just a piss take, should be fired.

2/17/20 8:52 AM
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Just make weight... jesus.

Edited: 2/17/20 8:54 AM
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Yeah, he's comfortable coming in over weight and using that size advantage to smother his opponent. Dudes as unprofessional as it comes, and should be handed his walking papers. There was a stretch where DW fired everyone that missed weight, he should go back to that.

2/17/20 9:47 AM
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People make mistakes. I usually give a guy a second chance. But when he messes up a second time, he's intentionally fucking me. That's 4. Cut him. Move him to BW. If he misses 135, move him to FW. 

2/17/20 9:54 AM
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I used to defend him but I don’t even see how that’s possible anymore. He’s missed weight 4 times and withdrawn from SIX scheduled fights in the last five years including his son’s brain surgery). 

As others have mentioned, he’s not even exciting. The fact that he wants to stay at flyweight is incomprehensible. I’m surprised BLAF hasn’t released him. 

2/17/20 11:20 AM
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A guy from MyMMANews.com (Eric Kowal) said on Twitter:

"We were just notified that the #UFC has requested Ray Borg be removed from eligibility in the flyweight rankings. He will be moving up to bantamweight."

Kowal is on the UFC ranking panel.

There are 16 FlyW fighters on the UFC roster, if you include Borg. Ha ha, it's like kids' sports: If you're on the roster, you can tell everyone you're in the Top 15! (I don't know if Borg was in the top 15 last week, but he's not there now. In fact, they're only listing 14 guys in the rankings at the moment.)

Edited: 2/17/20 1:25 PM
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UFC has fucked up the flyweight division so bad. They let DJ go, let Cejudo never defend the belt he (controversially) won from DJ, and now they don't even have 15 guys to fill out the division.

Sergio Pettis, Dustin Ortiz, Wilson Reis, Zach Makovsky, Kyoji Horiguchi, Jose Torres, Ali Bagautinov, Hiro Ogikubo, Eric Shelton, all gone. Borg and Dodson moved up. The division has been gutted and no replacements have been brought in.
2/17/20 1:24 PM
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insanity.
2/17/20 3:30 PM
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Tug Dabone -

A guy from MyMMANews.com (Eric Kowal) said on Twitter:

"We were just notified that the #UFC has requested Ray Borg be removed from eligibility in the flyweight rankings. He will be moving up to bantamweight."

Kowal is on the UFC ranking panel.

There are 16 FlyW fighters on the UFC roster, if you include Borg. Ha ha, it's like kids' sports: If you're on the roster, you can tell everyone you're in the Top 15! (I don't know if Borg was in the top 15 last week, but he's not there now. In fact, they're only listing 14 guys in the rankings at the moment.)

They really just need to scrap the division already.