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5/25/19 6:24 AM
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https://torrentfreak.com/reddit-kos-piracy-focused-mma-community-ex-ufc-fighter-gets-the-blame-190524/

Reddit KOs Piracy-Focused MMA Community, Ex-UFC Fighter Gets The Blame

Piracy of UFC and other live MMA events got a little bit harder this week after Reddit banned its popular /r/mmastreams sub-Reddit. Following numerous copyright infringement complaints, the 165,000 member community must now find a new home. After a controversial Twitter outburst, some believe that an ex-UFC fighter should shoulder some of the blame.

Diligently following top-tier Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) events has never been an inexpensive pastime.

From its modern roots in the early 1990s on a strictly PPV basis, MMA has become a huge draw around the globe. Dominated by the UFC, those PPVs today cost upwards of $60 in the US, albeit less in other countries where providers like BT Sport offer the events as part of much cheaper packages.

Nevertheless, there is no shortage of fans who’d prefer not to pay anything at all. That, of course, is entirely possible using various types of pirate streaming outlets, from dedicated sites to streaming torrents, from Kodi add-ons to ‘pirate’ IPTV services.

While these streams are in abundance most Saturdays, finding them isn’t always easy for the novice. However, acting as a human-powered link aggregator, that’s where Reddit’s /r/MMAStreams sub-Reddit came in handy. Visitors to the sub around event time were able to find free streams of most if not all events. Until this week, that is.

 
5/25/19 6:25 AM
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The nuking of the 165,000 member community shouldn’t have come as a surprise. Around a month ago, moderators of the sub posted a warning indicating that everyone was on borrowed time.

“Today, we were notified that r/MMAStreams is at high risk of being banned for copyright violation,” the announcement read.

“We are seeking clarity on the issue, but we must begin to take steps to move.”

The community began switching to /r/MMAStreamz but this week that too was banned for exactly the same reasons as its predecessor.

It isn’t clear who had been filing complaints against these subs but one can be pretty confident that the UFC had a fairly big part to play. While links to live events don’t hang around for long, Reddit doesn’t contest notices on behalf of users, particular when a sub is obviously centered around infringement.

Of course, many in the link-sharing community are looking for a scapegoat. From a strictly legal perspective, the obvious choice would be the people posting the streams (no pirate links, no notices – in theory) but to MMA fans, they certainly aren’t part of the problem.

There is another candidate, however. One with a very high profile and, many streaming fans believe, a mouth that should’ve stayed closed.

Brendan Schaub is a former UFC heavyweight contender but since his departure from the promotion, he hasn’t always been polite about the way it operates. He may have also stepped somewhat dramatically over the line in advance of UFC 236, the very first UFC PPV under its brand new and exclusive ESPN+ streaming deal.

In a nutshell, Schaub – who has more than 750,000 Twitter followers and a very successful podcast – hit the platform in a sweat last month because he couldn’t get the PPV on his TV. With the clock counting down, he then made a veiled threat to stream the event illegally. He was subsequently inundated with a couple of thousand messages from fans containing links to do just that.

 

 

 
 
5/25/19 6:28 AM
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In a post-event podcast, Schaub revealed that what he saw in the illegal streaming world should be a serious matter for the UFC.

“I don’t think they [the UFC] realize the level of pure professionalism these dark web dudes have to these links. I’m not gonna say I did watch it illegally, i’m not gonna say I didn’t. When I clicked on that link, that thing was better quality than I had [expletive]…ever seen.

“Here’s the thing that’s scary about it,” he continued. “I must have got 2,000 DMs with different links to illegally stream this thing.”

And then, the cardinal sin. He mentioned Reddit by name.

“Just for database and research I went through 10 to 15 [of the links]. How big is Reddit? Reddit has their MMA thread where [events get posted], and you’re talking clear as day. I saw the fight. I’m anti-illegal streaming, i’m against that,” he added, to balance things up a bit.

Whether Schaub did pirate the whole event isn’t known but in the days that followed he continued to mention the illegal streams available via Reddit and elsewhere to his considerable audience. That, some believe, is why MMAStreams suddenly felt even more heat than usual.

The reality is that we’ll probably never know for sure. It’s also likely that even without Schaub’s promotional ‘help’, MMAStreams would still find itself choked-out eventually. Previously, similar sports-focused sub-Reddit’s have closed down following complaints from other organizations.

Considering its size, there is zero chance that the UFC didn’t know about MMAStreams already and with ESPN on board, they almost certainly want to show what they’re capable of on the eyeballs front. Platforms like MMAStreams don’t help that effort and that’s probably part of the reason why they’re no longer around.

Not on Reddit, at least….

5/25/19 6:29 AM
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5/25/19 6:37 AM
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It’s no secret that Bryan Callen and now Schaub stream mma events. Rogan has done it too.

5/25/19 10:42 AM
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They were getting close down way before this, I’m down to blame him but they were getting shut down because of the massive amount of people knowing about it. 150K subscribers but a shit load of more people...

 

a lot of people would just google mma stream reddit and be taken there 

5/25/19 10:45 AM
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Stea1th - 

They were getting close down way before this, I’m down to blame him but they were getting shut down because of the massive amount of people knowing about it. 150K subscribers but a shit load of more people...

 

a lot of people would just google mma stream reddit and be taken there 


5/25/19 11:00 AM
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I don't care about Shaub or reddit, but seriously.....where do we go now? 

5/25/19 11:07 AM
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Heavy weight contender? Really? Feels a little generous but my memory is terrible.

5/25/19 11:39 AM
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Jump Kick - 

It’s no secret that Bryan Callen and now Schaub stream mma events. Rogan has done it too.


why would rogan need to stream ufc ppv's when he commentates them live?
5/25/19 11:51 AM
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also 

r/BestOfStreamingVideo has been banned from Reddit

5/25/19 11:51 AM
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saidit.net
5/25/19 11:55 AM
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fuckkkk they banned streamz already? they just made it. feels bad man

5/25/19 12:11 PM
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starboy -
Jump Kick - 

It’s no secret that Bryan Callen and now Schaub stream mma events. Rogan has done it too.


why would rogan need to stream ufc ppv's when he commentates them live?

he doesnt commentate every ppv, but I know for a fact he asked for a stream to an asian event years ago on twitter. 

5/25/19 12:31 PM
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knappster -

fuckkkk they banned streamz already? they just made it. feels bad man

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5/25/19 12:38 PM
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Shaub if your reading this you metro idiot just shut up next time lol

5/25/19 12:39 PM
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I thought it was dumb af when he mentioned it. 

 

When a million ppl hear you publicly announce the main streaming source, the UFC is forced to take action. 

 

Dumb Fuck

Edited: 5/25/19 12:45 PM
5/18/11
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Oh no! Now people will have to go to one of the other thousands of streaming sites.

5/25/19 1:22 PM
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Shaub had always come across as a big dumbass lol

5/25/19 1:50 PM
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He became a golden snitch himself. 

5/25/19 1:54 PM
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I’ve been using the same site since the Pride days.

5/25/19 2:17 PM
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Huggsbear -

Oh no! Now people will have to go to one of the other thousands of streaming sites.

I'm told that none of them seemed to be as good and reliable at Reddit was though.

5/25/19 2:18 PM
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The thing is, in Canada can we even get the espn app that I keep hearing such shitty things about? Last I checked, it wasn't even an option for us. So how the fuck exactly are we to watch some of these events if we don't have tv?

5/25/19 2:36 PM
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Really dumb to blame this on him.

 

They have been cracking down on steeaming for a while and that reddit was talking about being banned before he said anything.

5/25/19 2:41 PM
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who cares. reddit is for fags. if you want to stream something: stream it

dont get online and slap each others virtual ass cheecks around while your doing it.