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People who think Floyd carried McGregor have never seen Mayweather fight before. That's what he does against everyone. He did the same shit against Zab Judah. Floyd takes the first 4 rounds to feel his opponent out and then picks it up. He's been doing it for 20 years.
I think people are using the word "carried" differently. Some take it to mean that Floyd intentionally didn't fight Conor hard because it was Conor, and he wanted to make it look like a real fight...where others take it to mean that Floyd wasn't trying all that hard to stop Conor early.
I agree with you 100%, Mayweather fought like he always does, was never in danger, and knew he'd keep breaking him down for either an eventual stoppage, or a lopsided decision...and alot of MMA guys don't realize that Floyd fights at that pace often, and the reason lots of fans hate him is because even when he knows he's waaaaaaaayyyyyy better than the guy he's fighting, he's content doing just enough to win the rounds. He doesn't give a shit if he's exciting, and doesn't give a shit if you like his fights. As long as he wins without any real convtroversy and doesn't take much damage, that's what he's looking for.
I can't blame the guy either, because how many multiple time world champions retire without taking a ton of damage? Either way...all the talk about needing to embarrass Conor leading up to the fight was just that...talk. He fought safe until it became obvious that putting his foot on the gas would still be safe, because Conor had nothing left. That was Floyd's first real stoppage since 2007...his only stoppage in that time was the Ortiz fight, and he hit the fucking guy when he was trying to apologize for a foul. It was legal, but the MMA equivalent would be hitting a guy when he tried to touch gloves. It's perfectly legal, but obviously scummy.
So basically Floyd never stopped anyone in the last 10 years, and fought the same slow pace he always does, stopped Conor when he felt like stopping him, and MMA fans still act like Conor make Floyd work his ass off in there.
it looked like he didn't even give a shit about winning the early rounds, and was in danger of losing a decision if Conor was somehow able to hang on for 12.
I thought John Danaher had it pegged pretty well, too:
"My experience of watching very good MMA athletes spar against elite boxers in the gym is always the same - they are quite competitive for the first 3-4 rounds and do surprisingly well. Then around the 5th round the elite boxer begins to figure out the unorthodox or awkward movement and begins to employ ring craft tactics to tire the MMA athlete by making him work harder than he is, making him miss punches etc etc. around the 8th round a very noticeable shift occurs where the elite boxer takes over. I expect a similar pattern tonight
Great quote from John...the only thing I think we need to quantify is what "doing quite well" means. IMO Conor did quite well against Floyd early, meaning it wasn't a complete shit show, and people watching it said "wow, this isn't as much of a farce as I thought it was going to be." At no point in those early rounds do I think Floyd said "damn, this guy is tough." I think he likely had harder sparring sessions leading up to the fight. I'm sure that offends Conor fans, but it's the truth.
As for Floyd being in danger of losing a decision, Conor won round 1 on all 3 cards, but didn't win another round on even 2 of the judges cards. One judge gave Conor the first 3, then no other rounds. I think a lot of people confused making it competitive with winning rounds.
One last thing on the Malignaggi vs Artem thing. Lots of people are saying Paulie has no power...but he had KO's early in his career, and the dudes he was knocking out who were like 18-2 at the time would beat Artem in a boxing match. Artem is not a good boxer. Paulie fought nothing but killers for most of his career.
Look at KJ Noons. He was a considered a great MMA striker, and had 9 KO's in his 13 wins...pieced up Nick Diaz really well in his first fight with him. As a boxer, KJ was 13-2 with 5 KO's...not exactly a big puncher in that world. Compare that to Paulie's first 15 pro boxing fights...he was 15-0 with 5 KO. I realize it's not a perfect comparison, but my point is that Paulie was knocking guys out when he wasn't fighting killers and likely has waaaaaayyyyyy more power than MMA fans are giving him credit for...and it's not always the power that hurts guys, it's the speed and timing, and Paulie...even at this stage in his career will be faster and slicker than anyone Artem has ever fought.