UnderGround Forums What getting KO’d in UFC is like...

6 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 1138

I just had an awesome Podcast with Matt Brown that will post tomorrow, and as most of you know, he kinda made me sleepy in our fight. Well kinda a lot. So I figured I would start addressing some of the most common questions I was actually asked by friends and people I met while I was in UFC, since no one else really talks much about these things. So here is the first one, kind of a rough start... Lol Enjoy!

 

6 days ago
12/12/12
Posts: 3709

Fighters like you are what make this site worth visiting. Thanks for the years of entertainment, Mike!

6 days ago
8/12/16
Posts: 13590

Good insight, thanks for the vid.

Two quick questions if you don't mind..

1: Where would you rank yourself all-time in terms of speed at 170 and above? 

2: Was Okami the strongest opponent you faced?  If not, who would you say was?

6 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 1139
Squirrel, Blue Belt -

Fighters like you are what make this site worth visiting. Thanks for the years of entertainment, Mike!

Thanks bud!

6 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 1140
Dashabox -

Good insight, thanks for the vid.

Two quick questions if you don't mind..

1: Where would you rank yourself all-time in terms of speed at 170 and above? 

2: Was Okami the strongest opponent you faced?  If not, who would you say was?

Thanks!

 

1. At the time? In my Prime? I was fastest at 170! Haha ;) Even now at 41, still the fastest 41yo around Lol

 

2. Yea but Okami’s strength didn’t scare me. Everyone thinks that because they heard me tell my corner he was strong between rounds 1 and 2. I was just letting them know we couldn’t do the original gameplan, as I was usually stronger than my opponents. Not this case. He was freak strong. Not gonna be able to win the clinch. So we changed up the plan and I went out and almost finished him in round 2 and took the round. Hate when people think I was broke and scared. It was my best round after I said that comment. Good adjustment too. He just got me back down in 3 and I couldn’t get him off until like 45 seconds was left. Crazy to be on top punching your opponent in front of your hometown crowd last 30 seconds of the fight to awesome cheering then lose. Rightfully so though, he did win the majority of the 3rd and took the fight. Moral victory with my hometown ending though! Haha 

 

6 days ago
11/23/07
Posts: 924

saved for later.  your content is awesome, man!  love the honesty

6 days ago
5/30/09
Posts: 2239

TTT

6 days ago
8/12/16
Posts: 13598
Mike Swick -
Dashabox -

Good insight, thanks for the vid.

Two quick questions if you don't mind..

1: Where would you rank yourself all-time in terms of speed at 170 and above? 

2: Was Okami the strongest opponent you faced?  If not, who would you say was?

Thanks!

 

1. At the time? In my Prime? I was fastest at 170! Haha ;) Even now at 41, still the fastest 41yo around Lol

 

2. Yea but Okami’s strength didn’t scare me. Everyone thinks that because they heard me tell my corner he was strong between rounds 1 and 2. I was just letting them know we couldn’t do the original gameplan, as I was usually stronger than my opponents. Not this case. He was freak strong. Not gonna be able to win the clinch. So we changed up the plan and I went out and almost finished him in round 2 and took the round. Hate when people think I was broke and scared. It was my best round after I said that comment. Good adjustment too. He just got me back down in 3 and I couldn’t get him off until like 45 seconds was left. Crazy to be on top punching your opponent in front of your hometown crowd last 30 seconds of the fight to awesome cheering then lose. Rightfully so though, he did win the majority of the 3rd and took the fight. Moral victory with my hometown ending though! Haha 

 

Thanks for taking the time to answer in detail Mike.

I believe you were the fastest and no doubt your the fastest 41 year-old around.  I really can't think of anyone faster off the top of my head.

As for the second question I hope you know I wasn't implying you were broken by Okami or scared, I'd never come at you like that.  I'd be too scared we would run into each other one day and you would remember my screen name lol

Thanks again, you have a great show going.

6 days ago
3/20/12
Posts: 36936
Maybe you were just tired Mike.


Love the Podcasts.
6 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 1141
Dashabox -
Mike Swick -
Dashabox -

Good insight, thanks for the vid.

Two quick questions if you don't mind..

1: Where would you rank yourself all-time in terms of speed at 170 and above? 

2: Was Okami the strongest opponent you faced?  If not, who would you say was?

Thanks!

 

1. At the time? In my Prime? I was fastest at 170! Haha ;) Even now at 41, still the fastest 41yo around Lol

 

2. Yea but Okami’s strength didn’t scare me. Everyone thinks that because they heard me tell my corner he was strong between rounds 1 and 2. I was just letting them know we couldn’t do the original gameplan, as I was usually stronger than my opponents. Not this case. He was freak strong. Not gonna be able to win the clinch. So we changed up the plan and I went out and almost finished him in round 2 and took the round. Hate when people think I was broke and scared. It was my best round after I said that comment. Good adjustment too. He just got me back down in 3 and I couldn’t get him off until like 45 seconds was left. Crazy to be on top punching your opponent in front of your hometown crowd last 30 seconds of the fight to awesome cheering then lose. Rightfully so though, he did win the majority of the 3rd and took the fight. Moral victory with my hometown ending though! Haha 

 

Thanks for taking the time to answer in detail Mike.

I believe you were the fastest and no doubt your the fastest 41 year-old around.  I really can't think of anyone faster off the top of my head.

As for the second question I hope you know I wasn't implying you were broken by Okami or scared, I'd never come at you like that.  I'd be too scared we would run into each other one day and you would remember my screen name lol

Thanks again, you have a great show going.

No worries bud and I didn’t think you were, I was just addressing the fact so many people online did and the assessment was off. As you see more now with the no crowds, the corner time is a very important place to share vital info that needs to be shared. It would do me no good to be an AKA fighter and go back to my corner and say I was intimidated. Haha

6 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 1142
Rambo John J - Maybe you were just tired Mike.


Love the Podcasts.

Thanks bud, glad you enjoy them!

6 days ago
7/5/13
Posts: 13653

Awesome! I love Matt Brown. 
 

good to see the quick sharing and posting! 

6 days ago
8/12/16
Posts: 13608
Mike Swick -
Dashabox -
Mike Swick -
Dashabox -

Good insight, thanks for the vid.

Two quick questions if you don't mind..

1: Where would you rank yourself all-time in terms of speed at 170 and above? 

2: Was Okami the strongest opponent you faced?  If not, who would you say was?

Thanks!

 

1. At the time? In my Prime? I was fastest at 170! Haha ;) Even now at 41, still the fastest 41yo around Lol

 

2. Yea but Okami’s strength didn’t scare me. Everyone thinks that because they heard me tell my corner he was strong between rounds 1 and 2. I was just letting them know we couldn’t do the original gameplan, as I was usually stronger than my opponents. Not this case. He was freak strong. Not gonna be able to win the clinch. So we changed up the plan and I went out and almost finished him in round 2 and took the round. Hate when people think I was broke and scared. It was my best round after I said that comment. Good adjustment too. He just got me back down in 3 and I couldn’t get him off until like 45 seconds was left. Crazy to be on top punching your opponent in front of your hometown crowd last 30 seconds of the fight to awesome cheering then lose. Rightfully so though, he did win the majority of the 3rd and took the fight. Moral victory with my hometown ending though! Haha 

 

Thanks for taking the time to answer in detail Mike.

I believe you were the fastest and no doubt your the fastest 41 year-old around.  I really can't think of anyone faster off the top of my head.

As for the second question I hope you know I wasn't implying you were broken by Okami or scared, I'd never come at you like that.  I'd be too scared we would run into each other one day and you would remember my screen name lol

Thanks again, you have a great show going.

No worries bud and I didn’t think you were, I was just addressing the fact so many people online did and the assessment was off. As you see more now with the no crowds, the corner time is a very important place to share vital info that needs to be shared. It would do me no good to be an AKA fighter and go back to my corner and say I was intimidated. Haha

Makes sense, people can be harsh with their judgments.

I know you're busy but I was wondering if you have ever been contacted by the UFC for a commentating/host job and if you would be interested if they did?

I think you would be great at it, but considering where you live I suppose it might not be possible/worth it for you.

 

5 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 1143

The new Matt Brown Podcast! Enjoy! 
 

 

UFC welterweight, TUF 7 alum, owner of Immortal Martial Arts Center, Co-founder and Co-owner of Immortal Coffee, and Mike’s former opponent, Matt Brown, Skypes in for today’s show. He and Mike talk about Matt’s upcoming fight against Carlos Condit, his sources of motivation, fighting without crowds, Leon Edwards vs Khamzat Chimaev, Conor McGregor vs Dustin Poirier, the Khabib/Jones P4P GOAT debate, The Ultimate Fighter, and so much more! Be sure to subscribe and click the bell for notifications so you never miss an episode!


Timestamps:

2:35 Matt almost had to close his gym

5:23 Phuket, Thailand is like the fight Mecca of the world

6:51 How Mike got KO'd by Matt 

11:05 Third time is the charm for Matt Brown vs Carlos Condit

15:57 Matt's kids are his main source of motivation

17:33 Welterweight rankings don't matter to Matt

21:21 Matt's first no-crowd fight really threw him off

23:38 Leon Edwards will be a true test for Khamzat Chimaev

28:09 Matt's take on Conor McGregor vs Justin Poirier

29:31 Matt weighs in on the Khabib vs Jon Jones P4P GOAT debate

36:15 Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones Jr

37:24 Carlos Condit could be Matt's last fight

38:51 Matt is a fan of TUF and Dana White's Contender Series

40:44 The Ultimate Fighter from an insider's perspective

43:04 Coaching isn't easy, but Matt loves it

5 days ago
4/21/06
Posts: 64404

Mike Swick - The Quest for Ten Finally Resumes Saturday | UFC

5 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 1145
Hong Kong Phooey -

Mike Swick - The Quest for Ten Finally Resumes Saturday | UFC

And then after this he choked me unconcious. Lol I gotta do a video now about what it’s like waking up in the center of the Octagon and having Bruce Buffer tell me what the hell happened. Good times! 

5 days ago
2/14/11
Posts: 36053

Swick provides great content and insight in his post fight career. A great ambassador for MMA.

5 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 67841

ttt

4 days ago
5/15/15
Posts: 2682

Such a legend, glad you're still having fun with it all!

4 days ago
7/8/16
Posts: 832

Hey Mike sorry to ask a question about one of your loses but I’ve been wondering this for awhile and never got a chance to ask someone on your level this question. How did you keep your mind set on the goal of fighting after losing in your hometown? Back in 2013 I had a small MMA gym and I was pursuing what I thought would be my MMA career. I was only 4-0 but we threw an event in my home town. To keep a long story short I ended up getting TKOd with 5 seconds left of the first round. Span a week or two later, depression and embarrassment hit me like a freight train and so did self medicating with heavy drugs. Luckily I’m clean finally but I just would really love some insight on how you kept your mind set on your goals after losing in front of family and the town you grew up in. I never thought I would be able to ask something that’s as successful as you the question but I get the feeling you might be the guy to be able to articulate that better then most mma fighters. Thanks a lot man! 

4 days ago
8/19/03
Posts: 29646
Yaaaaaa Buddddddy -

Hey Mike sorry to ask a question about one of your loses but I’ve been wondering this for awhile and never got a chance to ask someone on your level this question. How did you keep your mind set on the goal of fighting after losing in your hometown? Back in 2013 I had a small MMA gym and I was pursuing what I thought would be my MMA career. I was only 4-0 but we threw an event in my home town. To keep a long story short I ended up getting TKOd with 5 seconds left of the first round. Span a week or two later, depression and embarrassment hit me like a freight train and so did self medicating with heavy drugs. Luckily I’m clean finally but I just would really love some insight on how you kept your mind set on your goals after losing in front of family and the town you grew up in. I never thought I would be able to ask something that’s as successful as you the question but I get the feeling you might be the guy to be able to articulate that better then most mma fighters. Thanks a lot man! 

TTT 

4 days ago
12/9/05
Posts: 7755

Been a Mike ‘Quick’ Swick fan from them TUF season 1 days. Loved watching any fight this man had. I miss those days. 

4 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 1146
dawley -

Been a Mike ‘Quick’ Swick fan from them TUF season 1 days. Loved watching any fight this man had. I miss those days. 

Thanks bud!

4 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 1147
Yaaaaaa Buddddddy -

Hey Mike sorry to ask a question about one of your loses but I’ve been wondering this for awhile and never got a chance to ask someone on your level this question. How did you keep your mind set on the goal of fighting after losing in your hometown? Back in 2013 I had a small MMA gym and I was pursuing what I thought would be my MMA career. I was only 4-0 but we threw an event in my home town. To keep a long story short I ended up getting TKOd with 5 seconds left of the first round. Span a week or two later, depression and embarrassment hit me like a freight train and so did self medicating with heavy drugs. Luckily I’m clean finally but I just would really love some insight on how you kept your mind set on your goals after losing in front of family and the town you grew up in. I never thought I would be able to ask something that’s as successful as you the question but I get the feeling you might be the guy to be able to articulate that better then most mma fighters. Thanks a lot man! 

Hey bud, glad you got over the drug thing. It’s only a temporary fix and one that can permanently ruin your life. Hope you are good and healthy now! 
 

It was a tough loss for sure. One of my toughest. I was set to face Anderson Silva for the belt after beating Loiseau and chose to take on Okami in my hometown after Lutter won TUF and jumped ahead of me. So I lost a fight in front of my home crowd the first time a big UFC event was there, and also lost a title fight and dropped myself back down the ladder. 
 

It’s crazy but as I was feeling the absolute worst backstage that night, like a failure, the place went crazy and I found out that GSP was just KO’d by Serra. Honestly, that really took a lot of pressure off me. I immediately felt less like a failure for coming up short in a close hard fought fight after GSP, the King at the time, got KO’d. It put things into perspective that anything can happen and we all lose at some point. 
 

That being said, it was still one of my hardest loses to take so it was just about focusing forward and not thinking about it. I was sick at the time and had to take some time off to get my body right and then dropped to 170 after that fight, which I made myself believe would be my new beginning. Focusing on that and going day by day, I won 4 straight at 170 to fought again in a title contention fight with Hardy to face GSP. Unlucky for me I blew that by decision too. Lol 

 

By this time I had a strong hunch that being a Champion was just something not meant for me and my true passion was business so I started really putting my efforts in that. I never fought as a career. I knew it was just an opportunity to make something else for myself later in life. A World Title would of been the best I could of done, but just couldn’t do it. 
 

The rest of my fights after Hardy was to help fund my business endevours and one thing for sure is that when you have one foot out the door in this sport, you shouldn’t expect much. Too many hungry Lions that are all in like I was in the beginning and will eat you up. 
 

Business is where I could go on for days about winning and losing and suffering shit I never dreamed. Losing hope in humanity. Picking yourself back up after taking losses that feel like death. Fighting was a game compared to business when you start dealing with the big deals. I went through more getting AKA Thailand to where it is than 4 UFC careers combined. It’s nasty. You gotta be a Shark in a shark filled ocean. Crazy enough I love it though. 
 

Hope I didn’t get too off track but long story short is day by day. I always made sure I took a step forward no matter the beat or loss. Never taking a step back. As long as you go forward and try, even if you don’t see a clear path, it will clear eventually and opportunities will happen. Always the ones you don’t see or count on that help you the most and they are also the ones you would of never gotten had you not been walking forward and trying everything. I never seen someone super successful that just sat around depressed while opportunities hit them across the face. You gotta literally run into them. ;) 
 

Whew, did that help? Haha 

4 days ago
8/19/03
Posts: 29647
Mike Swick -
Yaaaaaa Buddddddy -

Hey Mike sorry to ask a question about one of your loses but I’ve been wondering this for awhile and never got a chance to ask someone on your level this question. How did you keep your mind set on the goal of fighting after losing in your hometown? Back in 2013 I had a small MMA gym and I was pursuing what I thought would be my MMA career. I was only 4-0 but we threw an event in my home town. To keep a long story short I ended up getting TKOd with 5 seconds left of the first round. Span a week or two later, depression and embarrassment hit me like a freight train and so did self medicating with heavy drugs. Luckily I’m clean finally but I just would really love some insight on how you kept your mind set on your goals after losing in front of family and the town you grew up in. I never thought I would be able to ask something that’s as successful as you the question but I get the feeling you might be the guy to be able to articulate that better then most mma fighters. Thanks a lot man! 

Hey bud, glad you got over the drug thing. It’s only a temporary fix and one that can permanently ruin your life. Hope you are good and healthy now! 
 

It was a tough loss for sure. One of my toughest. I was set to face Anderson Silva for the belt after beating Loiseau and chose to take on Okami in my hometown after Lutter won TUF and jumped ahead of me. So I lost a fight in front of my home crowd the first time a big UFC event was there, and also lost a title fight and dropped myself back down the ladder. 
 

It’s crazy but as I was feeling the absolute worst backstage that night, like a failure, the place went crazy and I found out that GSP was just KO’d by Serra. Honestly, that really took a lot of pressure off me. I immediately felt less like a failure for coming up short in a close hard fought fight after GSP, the King at the time, got KO’d. It put things into perspective that anything can happen and we all lose at some point. 
 

That being said, it was still one of my hardest loses to take so it was just about focusing forward and not thinking about it. I was sick at the time and had to take some time off to get my body right and then dropped to 170 after that fight, which I made myself believe would be my new beginning. Focusing on that and going day by day, I won 4 straight at 170 to fought again in a title contention fight with Hardy to face GSP. Unlucky for me I blew that by decision too. Lol 

 

By this time I had a strong hunch that being a Champion was just something not meant for me and my true passion was business so I started really putting my efforts in that. I never fought as a career. I knew it was just an opportunity to make something else for myself later in life. A World Title would of been the best I could of done, but just couldn’t do it. 
 

The rest of my fights after Hardy was to help fund my business endevours and one thing for sure is that when you have one foot out the door in this sport, you shouldn’t expect much. Too many hungry Lions that are all in like I was in the beginning and will eat you up. 
 

Business is where I could go on for days about winning and losing and suffering shit I never dreamed. Losing hope in humanity. Picking yourself back up after taking losses that feel like death. Fighting was a game compared to business when you start dealing with the big deals. I went through more getting AKA Thailand to where it is than 4 UFC careers combined. It’s nasty. You gotta be a Shark in a shark filled ocean. Crazy enough I love it though. 
 

Hope I didn’t get too off track but long story short is day by day. I always made sure I took a step forward no matter the beat or loss. Never taking a step back. As long as you go forward and try, even if you don’t see a clear path, it will clear eventually and opportunities will happen. Always the ones you don’t see or count on that help you the most and they are also the ones you would of never gotten had you not been walking forward and trying everything. I never seen someone super successful that just sat around depressed while opportunities hit them across the face. You gotta literally run into them. ;) 
 

Whew, did that help? Haha 

Great post, man.  There's a lot of fighters who would do well to read this.  I think it's great that even in a high profile position like you were in (UFC, TUF, etc.) that you still kept a level head, a realistic perspective, and knew that you had to have some type of exit ramp.

 

Having an exit strategy in no way makes someone less dedicated.  It makes them smart, because in a sport like MMA, you're one catastrophe away from losing it all.  Eyepoke in training, torn ACL, paralyzed by a simple takedown.  

 

Good for you, Mike, in having that vision.