UnderGround Forums What is the benefit of not showing round scores

13 days ago
8/23/11
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moogin83 -

Stalling 100% would happen.

The ref can deduct a point for stalling 

13 days ago
10/30/14
Posts: 3303
The Sauce -

Because the suspense of waiting for the decision at the end of the fight. If you already know the official score before the announcers do their thing, it's going to be very very anti climactic 

We all know who won unless they got it wrong or if it's close. If close, we KNOW it all comes down to the last round and the fighters would too. How exciting would that be?

Even more exciting to hear that decision IMO. 

13 days ago
10/30/14
Posts: 3304
moogin83 -

Stalling 100% would happen.

Only if a fighter knows they are up. Which happens now. Except sometimes they are wrong and stall when they should be going all out. 
 

If there is excessive stalling, deduct a point, the fight would get real interesting all of a sudden. 

13 days ago
10/30/14
Posts: 3305
Kirik -

I had this discussion years ago with then Nevada AC ED Keith Kizer, who considered it, and then rejected it. Among the concerns he cited, which ultimately were enough so that he didn't try it, were judges being influenced by the other judges' scores, and fighters not fighting in the case of an accidental foul if they know they are ahead.

Fair point but that seems an easy fix. 
 

Judges can't see what other judges scored. The crowd/corners see who won the round. That's it. Actual score cards from judges come after the fact. 

12 days ago
11/19/19
Posts: 1211

Boxing has tried it. It's an absolute shit show. Win three rounds and then run the rest of the fight? Win three rounds and do nothing but go for take downs and lay and pray?

The fans will lose, bigly.

12 days ago
3/13/18
Posts: 825

Who will stop the booing, bottle throwing and eventual rioting when Cecil's scores keep showing up?


Too much hand holding already. Fighter's corner needs to be more honest with him how he is doing. Fighter himself needs to be aware of his own output. If either are too slack hire someone who can do all that.

 

Dumb idea anyway you look at it.

12 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 18615
TexDeuce -

Guys in lead will just run away in the final round if they know they are up.

Sounds like a problem yellow card point deductions would fix!

Edited: 12 days ago
9/21/11
Posts: 639
forrestfan - could encourage stalling if a guy knew he was up

At the same time encourages the other fighter to fight for a finish knowing that is the only way they can win. But I've got no preference on showing the scores vs not.

12 days ago
7/8/04
Posts: 1370

Seems like the main problem is influence:

- judges being influenced by each other

- judges being influenced by crowd

- judged could even be influenced by fighters, coaches, and BLAF  (they're not far away!)

12 days ago
8/23/11
Posts: 8017
ScreenName22 -

Boxing has tried it. It's an absolute shit show. Win three rounds and then run the rest of the fight? Win three rounds and do nothing but go for take downs and lay and pray?

The fans will lose, bigly.

That's when the ref has to enforce the stall rule and deduct a point if one fighter is running. 
takedowns are part of the fight and score points. 
 

12 days ago
12/10/09
Posts: 192
Gartlin -

judges being influenced by the other judges' scores, and fighters not fighting in the case of an accidental foul if they know they are ahead.

That's the most legit reasoning against showing round scores I've read. I was in favor of it 5 minutes ago. Now I'm not sure again. 

Sweep the leg

11 days ago
10/24/03
Posts: 8376
Rear Naked Bloke -
The Sauce -

Because the suspense of waiting for the decision at the end of the fight. If you already know the official score before the announcers do their thing, it's going to be very very anti climactic 

We all know who won unless they got it wrong or if it's close. If close, we KNOW it all comes down to the last round and the fighters would too. How exciting would that be?

Even more exciting to hear that decision IMO. 

So you want to ruin the end of a good close fight? Look at Bonnar/Griffin that would have ruined one of the best moments in mma history. If the judging sucks, well than in sucks weather you know the score or not. 

11 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 38685

Eliminate the 5 minute rounds and employ a 15 or 25 minute time limit.  No breaks.  Have the judges score the fight as a whole not individual rounds.  

11 days ago
9/19/13
Posts: 7760

The pro is you can rig the system