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8/23/19 8:57 PM
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Uhtred Ragnarson - 
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Uhtred Ragnarson - 
Bobby Lupo -

McGregor is in a class of his own. 

BJ Penn had solid boxing when he was LW champ. Arlovski has excellent offensive boxing. Anderson Silva was skilled offensively and defensively. Jens Pulver could box. Bisping too 

Not a fan of Street Jesus? I think he’s one of the most intelligent strikers I’ve ever seen in MMA. 


I am actually, been a fan for years. He's fantastic, very impressive, belongs on the list. Rampage at his best had excellent boxing and a great defensive chamber guard for MMA boxing.

 

You still think Conor is the number one guy?


By a lot, actually. He's good at the really subtle things that other guys aren't even aware of, like how he's so calm and comfortable in the pocket, he just does these slight little movents to avoid the incoming shots, then drops a beautiful counter punch. Even something like his lazy jab for measuring and touching, it's like the Diaz slaps, but very subtle and backs it up with a finisher. Conor's great at baiting guys into exchanging, and he became a good stalker who can back a guy into the cage without even extending himself, he's just using footwork and distance managment. 

I should say, was. I don't think we'll ever see that guy again. 

8/23/19 9:05 PM
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Super Scientifical Powers -

Being crowned the best boxer in MMA is like winning the special olympics.

At the elite level, in divisions like batamweight, featherweight and lightweight, things have gotten much better but its still not great. And most of what you see outside of those divisions is fucking laughable. Footwork is bad, defense is bad, shot selection is bad, technique is bad, feinting and creating openings is bad, rhythm manipulation and varying power, countering... its all poor. Even McGregor, who not long ago people were calliing the best boxer in MMA, cant throw his left straight without throwing himself off balance, hes constantly over reaching, the guy got by on timing and shitty opponents not closing distance responsibly.

Paulie lost to the retard of the UFC. Below average UFC fighters best world champ boxers when you take the big goofy gloves off. 

8/24/19 11:45 AM
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ggh -

Best boxers in the ufc in my opinion ( kick boxer too ) : Style bender, Ngannou, Conor, Poirier, taisumov, calvin kattar, valentina.  ( no particular order ). If I had to choose one it would be valentina, she is the most decorated among them.

Not as decorated as Holly “my love” Holm

8/24/19 12:03 PM
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ConorWinsTheRematch - 
Super Scientifical Powers -

Being crowned the best boxer in MMA is like winning the special olympics.

At the elite level, in divisions like batamweight, featherweight and lightweight, things have gotten much better but its still not great. And most of what you see outside of those divisions is fucking laughable. Footwork is bad, defense is bad, shot selection is bad, technique is bad, feinting and creating openings is bad, rhythm manipulation and varying power, countering... its all poor. Even McGregor, who not long ago people were calliing the best boxer in MMA, cant throw his left straight without throwing himself off balance, hes constantly over reaching, the guy got by on timing and shitty opponents not closing distance responsibly.

"But Conor reaches with his lefts, and is off balance." That's such amature hour troll garbage. When ever anyone says that, that's when you know that person doesn't know shit about boxing, or fighting, and is just repeating what ever he's read over the internet. I bet you don't even know what it means to be in position. I bet you don't know anything about transferring weight.

When Pacquiao knocked down Thurman, while Thurman was backpeddaling, you could've taken a screen cap of Pacquiao's feet, and claimed he was "off balance and reaching."

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But the important thing is, he kept himself in position with his weight to capitalise, while his opponent did not have his stance or weight with him while trying to evade. You have to look at sequences in full (as they flow).  You can't recognize that when Conor is fighting because you don't actually know boxing. Conor was landing his left leads on Floyd in a boxing ring

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So by your "logic" (or more like, lack of) then what does that say about the level of boxing in boxing?

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"Omg Floyd reaching with his right lead, and off balance"

Conor was having a field day slipping Floyd's right leads and countering with uppercuts.

Newbs here are so blinded by their hatred of Conor, they will even deny the wins he has, which is as factual as you can get, so of course they are going to deny the obvious that Conor is far and away the best boxer MMA history has ever seen at a championship level. Who ever you "think" is a better boxer, i can break down all their flaws for you. They have probably already been out struck on the feet or knocked out. And at the end of the day, ask yourself truly, "would my pick have been able to compete with Floyd in a boxing ring?" Everyone deep down inside knows the correct answer to that. The answer is, Conor is far and away the best boxer in MMA history at a championship level. It's that simple. His performance against Floyd cements that, and is as concrete as it gets. Actually try to understand what you are watching, newb


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8/24/19 12:41 PM
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Cody Garbrandt has some hand skills. 

8/27/19 3:09 PM
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Bobby Lupo -
Uhtred Ragnarson - 
Bobby Lupo -
Uhtred Ragnarson - 
Bobby Lupo -

McGregor is in a class of his own. 

BJ Penn had solid boxing when he was LW champ. Arlovski has excellent offensive boxing. Anderson Silva was skilled offensively and defensively. Jens Pulver could box. Bisping too 

Not a fan of Street Jesus? I think he’s one of the most intelligent strikers I’ve ever seen in MMA. 


I am actually, been a fan for years. He's fantastic, very impressive, belongs on the list. Rampage at his best had excellent boxing and a great defensive chamber guard for MMA boxing.

 

You still think Conor is the number one guy?


By a lot, actually. He's good at the really subtle things that other guys aren't even aware of, like how he's so calm and comfortable in the pocket, he just does these slight little movents to avoid the incoming shots, then drops a beautiful counter punch. Even something like his lazy jab for measuring and touching, it's like the Diaz slaps, but very subtle and backs it up with a finisher. Conor's great at baiting guys into exchanging, and he became a good stalker who can back a guy into the cage without even extending himself, he's just using footwork and distance managment. 

I should say, was. I don't think we'll ever see that guy again. 

How do you think Masvidal compares to Conor? Jorge is slick, but it seems like he has slow feet. Conor can overly reliant on explosive footwork, but it has been amazingly effective for him thus far.

 

Also, do you know of any MMA gyms in the city that favor bladed stances? My boxing coach has be bladed the fuck up more than I ever have been, I would like to incorporate kicks more from this stance to say the least. 

8/27/19 3:11 PM
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8/27/19 3:24 PM
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fightsfan - PAUL FELDER has good hands


the Irish Hand Grenade boxed

Jens Pulver .....

Rampage Jackson when he was trained by JUANITO ....oh wait





The Irish hand grenade was terrible at pretty much everything. Hyped as a former pro boxer, don't believe this shit please 

8/27/19 3:27 PM
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Hate to admit it but it's Conor. Aldo is pretty good too, then Frankie, Dillashaw and Garbrandt

8/27/19 3:36 PM
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dinkledorf -

Hate to admit it but it's Conor. Aldo is pretty good too, then Frankie, Dillashaw and Garbrandt

Surprisingly solid list. 

 

What about street Jesus though??

8/28/19 4:44 AM
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Bobby green early days in the ufc 

8/28/19 6:28 AM
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Uhtred Ragnarson -
chupecabre -

Traditional boxing, hard to look past Holloway, Conor, Diaz, Masvidal, Poirer... 

Diaz is a sloppy puncher, he has a lot of holes in his boxing. Outside of that, I agree with almost everyone you listed. 

Although Max got rekt by DP. 

Andre Ward said the Diaz brothers could hang with top level Pro's when he trained boxing with him

 

I'd say the diaz bro's, mcgregor,frankie, holloway, gsp,holly holm, cody garbrandt, masvidal, 

8/28/19 7:02 AM
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ggh -

Best boxers in the ufc in my opinion ( kick boxer too ) : Style bender, Ngannou, Conor, Poirier, taisumov, calvin kattar, valentina.  ( no particular order ). If I had to choose one it would be valentina, she is the most decorated among them.

Not as decorated as Holly “my love” Holm

the problem is that they fought and valentina beat her, so she seemed to be the better striker, add to this the fact that holly got KOed by amanda, while valentina lost by decision, even though a lot of fans thought she actually beat  amanda.

8/28/19 8:58 AM
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Mshi -
Uhtred Ragnarson -
chupecabre -

Traditional boxing, hard to look past Holloway, Conor, Diaz, Masvidal, Poirer... 

Diaz is a sloppy puncher, he has a lot of holes in his boxing. Outside of that, I agree with almost everyone you listed. 

Although Max got rekt by DP. 

Andre Ward said the Diaz brothers could hang with top level Pro's when he trained boxing with him

 

I'd say the diaz bro's, mcgregor,frankie, holloway, gsp,holly holm, cody garbrandt, masvidal, 

Andre explicitly denied this IIRC. 

 

He commended them for trying their hand in the gym, but said they would get handled easily in boxing. That much is clearly evident. 

If you genuinely believe that Nate Fucking Diaz could hang with guys like Spence, Crawford, GGG, and Canelo, you’re being willfully ignorant.

8/28/19 9:07 AM
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8/28/19 4:22 PM
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Mushin Corbbery was an incredibly slick boxer for an MMA fighter. He must have been a boxer first. 

8/28/19 5:22 PM
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Ol' School Mikey Burnett!

8/28/19 9:03 PM
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I always thought Mark Hominick had decent hands for MMA. 

9/1/19 12:17 PM
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Fedorthedrummer -

I always thought Mark Hominick had decent hands for MMA. 

Meh, Jose had way better hands.