UnderGround Forums Why isn’t Stipe more popular?

8/14/19 8:44 PM
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Captain Canuck -

What a stupid fucking thing for Fabricio to do 

8/14/19 8:50 PM
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Boom Boom Mancino - 

It's not the highest on the list, but I don't think the non-Americanized name on an all-American guy helps a lot.  People in the US feel a bit weird just saying his name.

It's kind of a silly example, but even Vince McMahon Sr. would have had trouble tuning 'Stipe Miocic' into a 'hardworking ethnic hero' like Bruno Sammartino or 'Polish Power' Ivan Putski (well, those names aren't necessariiy 'Americanized' either but we've been used to Italian names especially for generations, and those particular ones aren't awkward at all for an American of that generation.)   

Add that to the lack of interest in self-promotion and extreme lack of enunciation and you have someone who's not as popular as he sounds like he should be on paper.


Stephen Matheson, imo.
8/14/19 8:52 PM
1/1/01
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I wondered if he's worked with a P.R./speech guy? You'd think someone at his level would give that a shot.

He's got the personality of a black hole.

8/14/19 10:33 PM
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He lost me after the DC fight with the bitching and pouting on the sideline. Should've fought somebody, anybody, and then called out DC in the post fight. He's just too boring to care about a rematch after he got flatlined. His "record" is a hype machine joke compared to other divisions too so you can't really sell anybody on that either. 

8/14/19 10:38 PM
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I think he's great, comes off as a massive dork on embeddeds and I find it hilarious. 

8/15/19 2:20 AM
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He's actually funny on the embeddeds, but interviews horribly. Also, while he derailed the Francis hype train, he should have worked harder to finish once it was obvious that Francis was done for, as there was a moment in that fight where he could have rode A LOT of momentum with a stoppage.

He also beat guys like Hunt, AA, Overeem, JDS (who beat him previously, further proof he has slid quite a bit) after they were already shot to shit, because the heavyweight division is fucked. The Werdum win was massive, but damn did Werdum go from fighting a masterful fight against Cain, to fighting like a fucking regional scrub in the Stipe fight.

 

8/15/19 10:55 AM
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Because hes a normal boring guy.

8/15/19 11:28 AM
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because he's the boringest speaker of maybe all time.. listening to him talk is like watching grass grow.. he just says empty words and talks about nothing .. 

Edited: 8/15/19 11:37 AM
6/27/12
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He has little marketing behind him from the UFC. In my IHO they are missing a big opportunity for a large part of their market.Blue Coller hard working  good guy has appeal. They just need to market the poor guy. 

8/15/19 12:23 PM
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Thats fukin illegal -

because he's the boringest speaker of maybe all time.. listening to him talk is like watching grass grow.. he just says empty words and talks about nothing .. 

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8/15/19 12:28 PM
8/18/13
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Honestly I think a big part of it is his accent. He seems like a good dude, but that accent automatically sounds brash, arrogant and obnoxious 

8/15/19 1:25 PM
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No teeth , mumbles and zero personality.  

8/15/19 5:17 PM
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God Of Thunder -

If he keeps Dc at a distance he can win 

Stipe is good at keeping his opponents at a distance. Dude hasn't fought in 12 years.

8/15/19 5:26 PM
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He's a marble-mouth with an awkward personality and i also never for a second bought into him being some all time great HW like the UFC tries to push.

8/16/19 9:48 PM
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supersonic - He's a marble-mouth with an awkward personality and i also never for a second bought into him being some all time great HW like the UFC tries to push.

No, but he definitely could have been a Rocky-type personality, the blue-collar over-achiever. The UFC didn't even give him that and seemed to want him to lose as soon as possible.
8/16/19 10:42 PM
12/24/10
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My opinion is that he is good at all phases but not great in any one area. Hard to get fans who don't relate to you. Ex DC Askren etc have the wrestling fans.  Gracie - Jujitsu fans etc etc.  he also comes across as a decent guy but just vanilla. 

Edited: 8/17/19 5:31 PM
11/20/05
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Poor guy sounds like a mongoloid. Can't be easily understood, and what he says is very simple.
It's a shame, because I think he's probably a fine person.
Cormier fits the blue collar crossover role perfectly.

8/17/19 6:20 PM
7/15/17
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I think his personality is just fighter 101 .. I don't care if someone talks shit or not.. but when they put a microphone in ur face don't mumble and say chiches ..  

he kind of has a bro style of acting .. like small pranks .. and trys to be the all American fire fighter type dude .. I just don't relate to that ..