UnderGround Forums Wrestling should it be banned from UFC ?

9/7/19 11:02 PM
4/25/11
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Stupid ...    Do you not see the difficulty in holding someone down against their will, who has trained in some cases since they were small children,  to avoid being taken down, to avoid being held down, to be able to get back up in case they are taken down? An opponent who knows what's coming and has trained for months with people brought in to specifically mimic that style, and is still helpless to avoid it? That is impressive. 

9/7/19 11:03 PM
1/4/11
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williepep - Rule changes involving elbows, up kicks, and soccer kicks, knee on mat etc all favor wrestling as well as removed some of BJJ's weapons. Greatly encourages parts of the wrestling game and makes it less dangerous to rely on.


Not to mention time limits being introduced is a great disadvantage to old school BJJ>


The idea is that some rules could be modified to make the game more spectator friendly.

Knees in north south position?

9/7/19 11:07 PM
1/22/14
Posts: 887

poirier was reduced to tears because he knew there is no way he is ever going to be champion...

and poirer is a bad man...

but totally helpless against the bst martial art on the planet...

 

and here is the deal...

 

khabib is not even a real wrestler...

 

if MMA ever was big enough to get the athletes that are involved in international wrestling before they are past their prime, all the forum nerds would lose their damn minds...

most of you have no clue what is really out there...

9/7/19 11:09 PM
1/22/14
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mixjitsu -
williepep - Rule changes involving elbows, up kicks, and soccer kicks, knee on mat etc all favor wrestling as well as removed some of BJJ's weapons. Greatly encourages parts of the wrestling game and makes it less dangerous to rely on.


Not to mention time limits being introduced is a great disadvantage to old school BJJ>


The idea is that some rules could be modified to make the game more spectator friendly.

Knees in north south position?

would not have helped poirier at all tonight...

9/7/19 11:10 PM
6/30/11
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They already banned chair shots to the head, what next, no kicking out of chokeslams?

9/7/19 11:46 PM
1/4/11
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LJB -
mixjitsu -
williepep - Rule changes involving elbows, up kicks, and soccer kicks, knee on mat etc all favor wrestling as well as removed some of BJJ's weapons. Greatly encourages parts of the wrestling game and makes it less dangerous to rely on.


Not to mention time limits being introduced is a great disadvantage to old school BJJ>


The idea is that some rules could be modified to make the game more spectator friendly.

Knees in north south position?

would not have helped poirier at all tonight...

I'm talking for wrestlers

9/8/19 8:23 AM
8/5/13
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Op saviors cock like a fine wine.

9/8/19 8:46 AM
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StretchPlum - Any time kickboxing has been on tv no one watches.

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9/8/19 3:52 PM
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A few posters have responded commenting on the Khabib fight or claiming OP is upset because Dustin lost. This is not accurate.


Khabib is a student of Sambo.




Finally got to watch the first round of yesterday's fight and as a fellow Sambo club champion I am very proud of what Khabib accomplished in round 1. A very nice active, pressuring, yet flowing style.

9/8/19 4:01 PM
5/30/15
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Huh? 

9/8/19 7:11 PM
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williepep - Should the rules be modified to lessen the impact or use of certain aspects of wrestling in the UFC ?


While the current rule set does create an environment where the use of wrestling can lead to championships it also sets the table for boring fights.


Should the UFC be made more fan friendly and create exciting fights by modifying the rules ?

There's GLORY, Lionfights,KOK and other Kickboxing leagues. Watch them.
9/9/19 1:20 AM
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sho0ok -

Lol you noob...it's called MMA.

Very few belts in UFC are with pure wrestlers.

You just mad that khabib won.

Maybe OP is no noob, maybe you are?

 

This already HAS happened. 

Wrestling and BJJ already did get cut back. You see standups, so if you're going to say "noob" and "mma", then you don't know how it all started. For fuck's sake, we even got standups out of sidemount.

Rounds: Didnt exist and were a clear advantage for grapplers. No clock will let you stand up and catch your breath, after being blanket fucked for 3 straight minutes. 

Then let's go further down the "MMA, you noob" line. Muay Thai: Elbows: Not all of them are allowed (12-6). Knees on the ground (if you want to fit that in MT): Very restricting rules. Kicks on the ground: Same thing. 

 

So dial it back a bit. Modern MMA has had SEVERE restrictions done, all so that the real noobs like you, would find it enjoayble. 

9/9/19 2:01 AM
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sho0ok -

Lol you noob...it's called MMA.

Very few belts in UFC are with pure wrestlers.

You just mad that khabib won.

Maybe OP is no noob, maybe you are?

 

This already HAS happened. 

Wrestling and BJJ already did get cut back. You see standups, so if you're going to say "noob" and "mma", then you don't know how it all started. For fuck's sake, we even got standups out of sidemount.

Rounds: Didnt exist and were a clear advantage for grapplers. No clock will let you stand up and catch your breath, after being blanket fucked for 3 straight minutes. 

Then let's go further down the "MMA, you noob" line. Muay Thai: Elbows: Not all of them are allowed (12-6). Knees on the ground (if you want to fit that in MT): Very restricting rules. Kicks on the ground: Same thing. 

 

So dial it back a bit. Modern MMA has had SEVERE restrictions done, all so that the real noobs like you, would find it enjoayble. 

Actually it's so it could be sanctioned... Get your facts straight. 

9/9/19 2:47 AM
9/7/19
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wrestling is mad boring tho

9/9/19 5:21 AM
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'For example little harder to use some of the wrestling rides if the guy on bottom can use 12-6 elbows. Being in someone's guard suddenly becomes more dangerous rather than being an advantageous striking top ride postition.' 

 

The guy on the bottom/in guard can strike with the point of the elbow as they aren't 12 to 6 (usually 9 to 3).

9/9/19 5:25 AM
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chupecabre -
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sho0ok -

Lol you noob...it's called MMA.

Very few belts in UFC are with pure wrestlers.

You just mad that khabib won.

Maybe OP is no noob, maybe you are?

 

This already HAS happened. 

Wrestling and BJJ already did get cut back. You see standups, so if you're going to say "noob" and "mma", then you don't know how it all started. For fuck's sake, we even got standups out of sidemount.

Rounds: Didnt exist and were a clear advantage for grapplers. No clock will let you stand up and catch your breath, after being blanket fucked for 3 straight minutes. 

Then let's go further down the "MMA, you noob" line. Muay Thai: Elbows: Not all of them are allowed (12-6). Knees on the ground (if you want to fit that in MT): Very restricting rules. Kicks on the ground: Same thing. 

 

So dial it back a bit. Modern MMA has had SEVERE restrictions done, all so that the real noobs like you, would find it enjoayble. 

Actually it's so it could be sanctioned... Get your facts straight. 

Not all of it. Get yours straight too, but I'll agree partially with you. 

 

9/9/19 5:36 AM
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williepep - Should the rules be modified to lessen the impact or use of certain aspects of wrestling in the UFC ?


While the current rule set does create an environment where the use of wrestling can lead to championships it also sets the table for boring fights.


Should the UFC be made more fan friendly and create exciting fights by modifying the rules ?

No wrestling shouldn’t be banned that’s ridiculous

Knees/ head kicks to downed opponent would mix it up a bit (both in favor of sprawl n brawlers but also potentially wrestlers)

9/9/19 7:40 AM
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williepep - A few posters have responded commenting on the Khabib fight or claiming OP is upset because Dustin lost. This is not accurate.


Khabib is a student of Sambo.




Finally got to watch the first round of yesterday's fight and as a fellow Sambo club champion I am very proud of what Khabib accomplished in round 1. A very nice active, pressuring, yet flowing style.

ur a sambo champ ?? show proof nobody believes u..waits for excuse

9/9/19 7:40 AM
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sickminds443 -

wrestling is mad boring tho

opinions vary

9/9/19 7:46 AM
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williepep - Should the rules be modified to lessen the impact or use of certain aspects of wrestling in the UFC ?


While the current rule set does create an environment where the use of wrestling can lead to championships it also sets the table for boring fights.


Should the UFC be made more fan friendly and create exciting fights by modifying the rules ?

Please just watch boxing and kick boxing

9/9/19 8:54 AM
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Chaddderz - 

Only thing I'd like to see is no more cage wrestling. Effective but not aesthetic. I'd like a much bigger ring or something that prevents wall wrestling but I can't see it happening.


Interesting idea but if you look at the old WEC, they had a smaller cage and high action fights.

I'd be interested in seeing a 10 min first round.

9/9/19 9:38 AM
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OP should be banned from posting

9/9/19 10:23 AM
10/8/13
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Who says people don't like to watch wrestling? Dana?

Askren vs Burroughs at Beat the Streets this past may did I think a 1.3 million gate. Lots of people enjoy grappling and watching it while kickboxing barely gets watched at all when it's on live TV. 

9/9/19 10:43 PM
7/2/07
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Mr Karate - 
williepep - Should the rules be modified to lessen the impact or use of certain aspects of wrestling in the UFC ?


While the current rule set does create an environment where the use of wrestling can lead to championships it also sets the table for boring fights.


Should the UFC be made more fan friendly and create exciting fights by modifying the rules ?

There's GLORY, Lionfights,KOK and other Kickboxing leagues. Watch them.

Thanks but MMA can be enjoyable.


It is a mischaracterization to paint a call to avoid wrestling stalling tactics as wanting a kickboxing match.


Judo

MMA

Boxing

Wrestling

All have rules or guidelines in place to make the sports more spectator friendly.

9/9/19 10:58 PM
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williepep -
Mr Karate - 
williepep - Should the rules be modified to lessen the impact or use of certain aspects of wrestling in the UFC ?


While the current rule set does create an environment where the use of wrestling can lead to championships it also sets the table for boring fights.


Should the UFC be made more fan friendly and create exciting fights by modifying the rules ?

There's GLORY, Lionfights,KOK and other Kickboxing leagues. Watch them.

Thanks but MMA can be enjoyable.


It is a mischaracterization to paint a call to avoid wrestling stalling tactics as wanting a kickboxing match.


Judo

MMA

Boxing

Wrestling

All have rules or guidelines in place to make the sports more spectator friendly.

Ill agree as long as there is a rule that they put them on the mat when the striking is boring and one guy is just hitting and running or both guys are just not doing anything of note.

Imo there have been more boring fights that were mostly standup than boring fights that were mostly grappling.