What if ... Ryan von Dumb is a Welcher!

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Edited: 3/1/15 11:59 AM
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FightToLive - OP said it was ok to donate to a charity ....So he did. What's the problem?

MOD Remove thread. Von Doom is blue and pays you fukers money why let people talk shit about him after he kept his word???
The man said he was sleeping.

You either didn't read the referenced thread or don't understand what being a man of your word means.

It doesn't mean refusing to live up to your word, then negotiating for a new outcome, then being obtuse to prove follow through of said negotiated outcome.

Stop riding his dick.
3/1/15 12:14 PM
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Stupid thread.
Only reason wizekracker agreed to the modified terms so quickly is because he wasn't gonna shell out what would've been a grand+ anyway.
I like the move in this particular situation.
And two guys, regardless, settled between each other.
A lotta ruffled panties.

If wizekracker proves he's anything different than an anonymous opportunist preying on idiots over the next couple years, I'll happily redact. Phone Post 3.0
3/1/15 12:26 PM
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SensoriaUtopia -  Dude did you guys read that thread, both wize kracker and rvd agreed to put it for charity, is rvd a boorish grouchy clown, yes, but I don't understand this thread, they both agreed to put it to charity so what's the problem folks Phone Post

did he post a reciept with a date on it? That pics of a donation doesn't have a date on it anywhere that I have seen.

Was literally last night screen shot. Phone Post 3.0
If the dude he bet with is ok with it then who cares? Phone Post 3.0
3/1/15 12:42 PM
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I'm confused?? He donated to St Jude's and someone has a problem?? St Jude's is an amazing hospital and organization. Phone Post 3.0
3/1/15 12:47 PM
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Leave RVD alone!!!

No but really. At least he sent money anywhere. He's not completely useless. Phone Post 3.0
3/1/15 12:51 PM
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There are many panties in a bunch here, and the floor is wet from tears Phone Post 3.0
3/1/15 12:55 PM
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Nice job you douche bag RVD, St Jude's is a good charity to donate to Phone Post 3.0
3/1/15 1:13 PM
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Aaron Becker - Nice job you douche bag RVD, St Jude's is a good charity to donate to Phone Post 3.0
83 cents of every dollar goes to childrens and their parents is the average. Been giving to them since i was 18. Phone Post 3.0
3/1/15 1:15 PM
4/11/07
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What is everybody's issue here? I've read the original thread, RVD paid up. People actually giving RVD shit are way off. Throw his online persona to the side and remember that he has gone out of his way to help others plenty of times here.

Wize Kraker's heavy odds threads are a shitstorm waiting to happen. He put up the biggest fight over $100 when King S had him against the ropes on a bet claiming that he (King S) had $100k in his bank. King S showed he had it in his acct, then Wize Kraker claimed it had to be in US $, yet, he's from Canada, why use the highest exchange rate?

RVD paid $10 to a great cause instead of that fucking fraud. His threads are bullshit and ruining good faith bets on the UG. He came up with an arbitrary bet limit when put to task by King and TQN about using an escrow, he's skirted multiple issues by ignoring questions posted by others.

Again, RVD paid $10 and paid it to a good cause instead of a fraud. Phone Post 3.0
3/1/15 1:21 PM
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If both parties agreed to it and payment was made, it's cool in my books.
3/1/15 1:24 PM
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RYAN VAN DOOOM

neeeeer neeeeer neeeeer neeeeer neeer neeeeer the whole Fn show Phone Post 3.0
3/1/15 1:25 PM
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RyannVonDoom -
Aaron Becker - Nice job you douche bag RVD, St Jude's is a good charity to donate to Phone Post 3.0
83 cents of every dollar goes to childrens and their parents is the average. Been giving to them since i was 18. Phone Post 3.0
Yep, good to help children and people in general that are in their situation through no fault of their own. I like it better than charities that help drug addicts and other shit heads Phone Post 3.0
3/1/15 1:33 PM
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SensoriaUtopia -  Dude did you guys read that thread, both wize kracker and rvd agreed to put it for charity, is rvd a boorish grouchy clown, yes, but I don't understand this thread, they both agreed to put it to charity so what's the problem folks Phone Post

i said he could send it to charity after he pretty much told me to fuck myself & said he would not pay. so i said, ok send it to charity if you wont honor your agreement. certainly not what i expected but better he send 10$ to a good cause than just flat out welch.
3/1/15 1:33 PM
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LiveToFightInc - I'm confused?? He donated to St Jude's and someone has a problem?? St Jude's is an amazing hospital and organization. Phone Post 3.0

No ones issue is with the money going to charity, rather with him changing terms after the bet.

imagine if you went to Vegas and put down a bet, only to win and get told you don't get your winnings, they are getting donated to charity.
3/1/15 1:33 PM
9/2/12
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TFK_Vulva Fabulous - What is everybody's issue here? I've read the original thread, RVD paid up. People actually giving RVD shit are way off. Throw his online persona to the side and remember that he has gone out of his way to help others plenty of times here.

Wize Kraker's heavy odds threads are a shitstorm waiting to happen. He put up the biggest fight over $100 when King S had him against the ropes on a bet claiming that he (King S) had $100k in his bank. King S showed he had it in his acct, then Wize Kraker claimed it had to be in US $, yet, he's from Canada, why use the highest exchange rate?

RVD paid $10 to a great cause instead of that fucking fraud. His threads are bullshit and ruining good faith bets on the UG. He came up with an arbitrary bet limit when put to task by King and TQN about using an escrow, he's skirted multiple issues by ignoring questions posted by others.

Again, RVD paid $10 and paid it to a good cause instead of a fraud. Phone Post 3.0

but the bet was not a charity bet, he decided not to pay me after he lost and i salvaged the situation and got him to send 10$ to a good cause.

personal feelings about me aside, if you make a bet, you honor it. its understandable why people are angry with him.
3/1/15 1:33 PM
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The Black Cheez - Donating it to charity is kind of cool admittedly. Phone Post 3.0

always glad to help people, my threads have generated almost 300$ for assorted charity's.
3/1/15 1:33 PM
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TFK_Vulva Fabulous - What is everybody's issue here? I've read the original thread, RVD paid up. People actually giving RVD shit are way off. Throw his online persona to the side and remember that he has gone out of his way to help others plenty of times here.

Wize Kraker's heavy odds threads are a shitstorm waiting to happen. He put up the biggest fight over $100 when King S had him against the ropes on a bet claiming that he (King S) had $100k in his bank. King S showed he had it in his acct, then Wize Kraker claimed it had to be in US $, yet, he's from Canada, why use the highest exchange rate?

RVD paid $10 to a great cause instead of that fucking fraud. His threads are bullshit and ruining good faith bets on the UG. He came up with an arbitrary bet limit when put to task by King and TQN about using an escrow, he's skirted multiple issues by ignoring questions posted by others.

Again, RVD paid $10 and paid it to a good cause instead of a fraud. Phone Post 3.0

we got a mental gymnast right here. Gold medal.
Edited: 3/1/15 1:40 PM
8/19/09
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And lol at bringing up tqn (the guy that welched on a guy that eventually welched too).

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/thread/2329160/Attn-yellow-wrkaholic/?&page=8
3/1/15 1:40 PM
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Didn't read the thread but can we just ban that basement dweller either way? Phone Post 3.0
3/1/15 1:42 PM
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Wize Kraker -
LiveToFightInc - I'm confused?? He donated to St Jude's and someone has a problem?? St Jude's is an amazing hospital and organization. Phone Post 3.0

No ones issue is with the money going to charity, rather with him changing terms after the bet.

imagine if you went to Vegas and put down a bet, only to win and get told you don't get your winnings, they are getting donated to charity.
Except casinos dont disappear when they lose the bets and reappear as new ones. Phone Post 3.0
3/1/15 1:46 PM
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Funny, i was the first to actually pay. But this abuse continues :) Phone Post 3.0
3/1/15 1:46 PM
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In.. Phone Post 3.0
Edited: 3/1/15 1:50 PM
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A lot of the same people have a problem with wize. Literally the same people pop into his threads crying to high heaven untill they are hitting keys with bloody stumps. If people are ok with betting against him (I never would) then they should stop crying and move on. and yet his main detractors justify others doing what he has yet to do. But because those same crybabies flood wize's thread with their trail of tears rvd got to use it as an excuse after the fact? Thats okay in their book apparently.
3/1/15 1:50 PM
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Muerto -
RyannVonDoom - 
Wize Kraker -
LiveToFightInc - I'm confused?? He donated to St Jude's and someone has a problem?? St Jude's is an amazing hospital and organization. Phone Post 3.0

No ones issue is with the money going to charity, rather with him changing terms after the bet.

imagine if you went to Vegas and put down a bet, only to win and get told you don't get your winnings, they are getting donated to charity.
Except casinos dont disappear when they lose the bets and reappear as new ones. Phone Post 3.0

Except he's yet to welch and you already have.

How does it make sense to you to accuse him of oneday doing what you have already done?

According to others he's disappeared when he lost big. Again, i paid up, showed proof. Now kindly eat a dick. Phone Post 3.0
3/1/15 1:51 PM
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Muerto -
TFK_Vulva Fabulous - What is everybody's issue here? I've read the original thread, RVD paid up. People actually giving RVD shit are way off. Throw his online persona to the side and remember that he has gone out of his way to help others plenty of times here.

Wize Kraker's heavy odds threads are a shitstorm waiting to happen. He put up the biggest fight over $100 when King S had him against the ropes on a bet claiming that he (King S) had $100k in his bank. King S showed he had it in his acct, then Wize Kraker claimed it had to be in US $, yet, he's from Canada, why use the highest exchange rate?

RVD paid $10 to a great cause instead of that fucking fraud. His threads are bullshit and ruining good faith bets on the UG. He came up with an arbitrary bet limit when put to task by King and TQN about using an escrow, he's skirted multiple issues by ignoring questions posted by others.

Again, RVD paid $10 and paid it to a good cause instead of a fraud. Phone Post 3.0

RVD didnt' bet with the charity.

You accuse Wize Kraker of betting with the intent to not pay if he loses and call him a fraud even though he hasn't done it yet.

Yet RVD does the same exact thing, bets with no intent to pay the bettor, and you praise him??

Kind of hypocritical isn't it?

You don't seem to have a problem with the act of welching, just with Wise Kraker.

Except he has, he's moved the goal posts multiple times against King S with that bank account bet. When he lost that bet, he changed the parameters, King S finally said fine, why couldn't RVD do the same? He paid $10, right? That was the bet amount. If WK is using that bet with King as proof that he doesn't welch, well, then RVD didn't welch because he paid after he lost and WK agreed to it.

Same exact fucking scenario. So take your mental gymnastics and shove them up your ass you mental midget. Phone Post 3.0
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