What if ... The disappearance of the angry atheists

10/30/19 12:44 PM
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Sonester Sambo -
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Atheists don't spread their seed and they're dying out. Good riddance


Spoken like a true forgiving Christian and by that I mean hypocrite.

 

Atheists love to spread the worm food ideology. Only fitting these Soul-less weirdos meet their destiny. 

The tolerant Christian at work spreading his gospel of love!

10/30/19 12:47 PM
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A lot of angry atheists came to realize that Christianity is pretty much the only things that can stop Islam from ruining the world, because secular humanism will not happen fast enough to make a difference, and they are also rational enough to realize that people who follow Christianity correctly are way less dangerous than people who follow Islam correctly. Intelligent atheists and Christians are now realizing they share common interests even if they disagree on theology.
10/30/19 12:47 PM
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CaptainWoody - To a point


I'm an atheist that became greatly turned off by a lot of other atheists, especially on other social media. The left has a lot of atheists, more than the right does, I witnessed them doing exactly what we disliked and argued against with religious people. They became sheep, the days of appreciating and promoting logic, critical thinking and skepticism over emotional appeal seem to be long gone. Now it's blindly following the side that is against the right, it's more important to be against the religious, conservatives or republicans and they'll forgo logic and critical thinking to do so.

The "movement" absolutely became a religion

A bit of that, but it ended up diverging and going in both directions. There were a lot of New Atheists who went right as well. The DNA of it was always there in the movement, with a lot of the New Atheists practically being neoconservatives because of their dislike of Islam.

10/30/19 12:50 PM
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sadic1 - A lot of angry atheists came to realize that Christianity is pretty much the only things that can stop Islam from ruining the world, because secular humanism will not happen fast enough to make a difference, and they are also rational enough to realize that people who follow Christianity correctly are way less dangerous than people who follow Islam correctly. Intelligent atheists and Christians are now realizing they share common interests even if they disagree on theology.

It's always been like that in the real world in my experience. I'm not an atheist, agnostic I suppose, but my best friend is very Christian and reads the bible every night.

10/30/19 12:54 PM
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I'm an atheist that votes Conservative... I think religion is dumb and toxic as fuck but each person has their own journey. Just don't push that shit onto me and we're good.

10/30/19 1:05 PM
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From the mid to late 2000s on the internet in general and this forum in particular, there was a sizable contingent of "fuck religion, flying spaghetti monster, i believe in science bro" types who would dominate any talk of religion, evolution, etc.  It seems that's all but disappeared and those people have morphed into alt right, anti-SJW warriors who've found common cause, or at least a cold peace, with right wing religionists to take on the wacko left.

 

I think it comes down to the fact that we (atheists) won. When I was growing up, it was hard to find someone around me who was NOT religious.  Now it's hard to find any one that is.

 

Fighting against religion is on par with fighting people who think the earth is flat or that dinosaurs never existed.  You can do it for jokes, but the fight has been won.

Behold, the gnostic athiest.

I dont know about me being 'gnostic'.  That's true to some extent I suppose... in the same way you 'know' that there isn't an invisible elephant behind you right now or an imperceivably small leprechaun in your ass. i.e. you dont really know but you know.

Its a weird universe we live in.  Anything is possible.

Well if being agnostic means that you believe that there being a God is as likely as there being a leprechaun up your ass then I think you would find 99.9999% of atheists would be fine identifying as 'agnostic'.

i disagree.  many athiests are gnostic and are as convinced that there is no god as devout christians are that jesus is their savior.  an agnostic athiest believes nothing.

10/30/19 1:15 PM
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OMG, look up the definition of atheist. We're not people that say "there is no god." We're people that say, "we don't believe there to be a god."

Sure, we could be wrong and anyone making a declarative statement about shit like that is arrogant as fuck.

I don't believe bible god is real and sure as hope he's not as he seems shady but yup, I could be wrong.
10/30/19 1:45 PM
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sadic1 - A lot of angry atheists came to realize that Christianity is pretty much the only things that can stop Islam from ruining the world, because secular humanism will not happen fast enough to make a difference, and they are also rational enough to realize that people who follow Christianity correctly are way less dangerous than people who follow Islam correctly. Intelligent atheists and Christians are now realizing they share common interests even if they disagree on theology.

 At least atheists that still can use their critical thinking understand that secular humanism has a very good chance of leading right into socialism, then communism.
 
You don't need to look any further than the progressive left Bernie, AOC supporters. Atheists perfer them over any other canidate and make up their largest base.
 
10/30/19 1:51 PM
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I think the terminology is confusing. Atheists don't by definition assert that God doesn't exist, but because agnostics sound like they are a bit more friendly to the possibility, atheists tend to get labelled as "antitheists", which is what someone who feels sure God doesn't exist should be referred to, imhfo.
10/30/19 2:27 PM
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sadic1 - I think the terminology is confusing. Atheists don't by definition assert that God doesn't exist, but because agnostics sound like they are a bit more friendly to the possibility, atheists tend to get labelled as "antitheists", which is what someone who feels sure God doesn't exist should be referred to, imhfo.

agreed. i use the terms agnostic and antitheist as well typically but, as i mentioned above, agnostics can be theists as well.  i don't usually talk about god unless someone asks me directly so if they're curious enough to ask i usually skip terminology and get very direct and specific as susinctly as possible.

10/30/19 2:28 PM
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CaptainWoody -
sadic1 - A lot of angry atheists came to realize that Christianity is pretty much the only things that can stop Islam from ruining the world, because secular humanism will not happen fast enough to make a difference, and they are also rational enough to realize that people who follow Christianity correctly are way less dangerous than people who follow Islam correctly. Intelligent atheists and Christians are now realizing they share common interests even if they disagree on theology.

 At least atheists that still can use their critical thinking understand that secular humanism has a very good chance of leading right into socialism, then communism.
 
You don't need to look any further than the progressive left Bernie, AOC supporters. Atheists perfer them over any other canidate and make up their largest base.
 

again, here i think terminology is confusing and misleading.  i'd suspect the first 3 are some form of athiest.

10/30/19 2:30 PM
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sadic1 - A lot of angry atheists came to realize that Christianity is pretty much the only things that can stop Islam from ruining the world, because secular humanism will not happen fast enough to make a difference, and they are also rational enough to realize that people who follow Christianity correctly are way less dangerous than people who follow Islam correctly. Intelligent atheists and Christians are now realizing they share common interests even if they disagree on theology.

this seems a bit over dramatic and paranoid

10/30/19 2:39 PM
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Most, the vast majority of atheists are agnostic
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From the mid to late 2000s on the internet in general and this forum in particular, there was a sizable contingent of "fuck religion, flying spaghetti monster, i believe in science bro" types who would dominate any talk of religion, evolution, etc.  It seems that's all but disappeared and those people have morphed into alt right, anti-SJW warriors who've found common cause, or at least a cold peace, with right wing religionists to take on the wacko left.

 

I think it comes down to the fact that we (atheists) won. When I was growing up, it was hard to find someone around me who was NOT religious.  Now it's hard to find any one that is.

 

Fighting against religion is on par with fighting people who think the earth is flat or that dinosaurs never existed.  You can do it for jokes, but the fight has been won.

Behold, the gnostic athiest.

I dont know about me being 'gnostic'.  That's true to some extent I suppose... in the same way you 'know' that there isn't an invisible elephant behind you right now or an imperceivably small leprechaun in your ass. i.e. you dont really know but you know.

Its a weird universe we live in.  Anything is possible.

Well if being agnostic means that you believe that there being a God is as likely as there being a leprechaun up your ass then I think you would find 99.9999% of atheists would be fine identifying as 'agnostic'.

i disagree.  many athiests are gnostic and are as convinced that there is no god as devout christians are that jesus is their savior.  an agnostic athiest believes nothing.

You misunderstood my post.

 

Do you believe that there is no invisible leprechaun dancing up your ass right now? Or do you not know?

 

If you believe that there is no invisible leprechaun dancing up your ass right now, then you are the equivalent of an agnostic atheist not believing in there being a god.

If you simply claim to 'not know' - then you should understand how absurd you sound:  You don't know whether or not theres an invisible leprechaun up your ass?  How can you be taken seriously?

 

10/30/19 7:46 PM
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In 2019 we are still talking about what an atheist is?

It's not that complicated.

Knowledge and belief are two different things.

Gnostic is speaking on knowledge, that's literally what the word means. (adjective...relating to knowledge). If you're agnostic, you are without knowledge.

Theism is speaking on a specific belief, the belief there is a God or Gods. That's literally what the word means. An atheist is without that belief, it's the lack of that belief, it's making no positive belief claims in return. Just like agnostic is lack of knowledge, atheist is lack of that specific belief.

An agnostic atheist is someone not claiming to know or have knowledge of, while also not believing the claim that there is a God.

This represents probably 99.9% of atheists, there may be some weird .1% that claim they know....they are or should be on medication because they are mentally ill, probably speaking to voices in their heads.


Again, it's not that hard.
10/30/19 7:59 PM
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From the mid to late 2000s on the internet in general and this forum in particular, there was a sizable contingent of "fuck religion, flying spaghetti monster, i believe in science bro" types who would dominate any talk of religion, evolution, etc.  It seems that's all but disappeared and those people have morphed into alt right, anti-SJW warriors who've found common cause, or at least a cold peace, with right wing religionists to take on the wacko left.

 

I think it comes down to the fact that we (atheists) won. When I was growing up, it was hard to find someone around me who was NOT religious.  Now it's hard to find any one that is.

 

Fighting against religion is on par with fighting people who think the earth is flat or that dinosaurs never existed.  You can do it for jokes, but the fight has been won.

Behold, the gnostic athiest.

I dont know about me being 'gnostic'.  That's true to some extent I suppose... in the same way you 'know' that there isn't an invisible elephant behind you right now or an imperceivably small leprechaun in your ass. i.e. you dont really know but you know.

Its a weird universe we live in.  Anything is possible.

Well if being agnostic means that you believe that there being a God is as likely as there being a leprechaun up your ass then I think you would find 99.9999% of atheists would be fine identifying as 'agnostic'.

i disagree.  many athiests are gnostic and are as convinced that there is no god as devout christians are that jesus is their savior.  an agnostic athiest believes nothing.

because thats not what agnostic means. false equivalency. there are plenty of agnostic theists in the world as evidence.

atheism has to do with belief

agnosticism pertains to claims about knowledge ( epistemology )

babies are agnostic atheists. every single one of them. because the do not believe in or subscribe to the idea of a god. therefore, they are without belief in a theology or divinity. a- ( literay means "nothing" or "without" ) theism ( belief in god ). 

yet the baby does not explicitly reject the idea of a god. 

catholics understood this dilemma quite well hence the intro of the concept of purgatory.

and no, babies are not inherently born with information about jesus. congenital religious belief structures is not a thing.

i hope this helps to clarify for some of the confused posters.

 

10/30/19 8:04 PM
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agnosticism is not a middle position.

everyone is either atheist or theist. there is no such thing as a plain agnostic. you re either agnostic atheist or agnostic theist depending on where you choose to suspend your judgement ( assuming of course you re agnostic at all and dont explicitly believe one way or the other absolutely/ authoritatively ). 

10/30/19 8:06 PM
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captain woody  must have posted while i was preparing my statements. sorry for the redundancy.

excellent post woody. VU.

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captain woody  must have posted while i was preparing my statements. sorry for the redundancy.

excellent post woody. VU.


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From the mid to late 2000s on the internet in general and this forum in particular, there was a sizable contingent of "fuck religion, flying spaghetti monster, i believe in science bro" types who would dominate any talk of religion, evolution, etc.  It seems that's all but disappeared and those people have morphed into alt right, anti-SJW warriors who've found common cause, or at least a cold peace, with right wing religionists to take on the wacko left.

 

I think it comes down to the fact that we (atheists) won. When I was growing up, it was hard to find someone around me who was NOT religious.  Now it's hard to find any one that is.

 

Fighting against religion is on par with fighting people who think the earth is flat or that dinosaurs never existed.  You can do it for jokes, but the fight has been won.

Behold, the gnostic athiest.

I dont know about me being 'gnostic'.  That's true to some extent I suppose... in the same way you 'know' that there isn't an invisible elephant behind you right now or an imperceivably small leprechaun in your ass. i.e. you dont really know but you know.

Its a weird universe we live in.  Anything is possible.

Well if being agnostic means that you believe that there being a God is as likely as there being a leprechaun up your ass then I think you would find 99.9999% of atheists would be fine identifying as 'agnostic'.

i disagree.  many athiests are gnostic and are as convinced that there is no god as devout christians are that jesus is their savior.  an agnostic athiest believes nothing.

because thats not what agnostic means. false equivalency. there are plenty of agnostic theists in the world as evidence.

atheism has to do with belief

agnosticism pertains to claims about knowledge ( epistemology )

babies are agnostic atheists. every single one of them. because the do not believe in or subscribe to the idea of a god. therefore, they are without belief in a theology or divinity. a- ( literay means "nothing" or "without" ) theism ( belief in god ). 

yet the baby does not explicitly reject the idea of a god. 

catholics understood this dilemma quite well hence the intro of the concept of purgatory.

and no, babies are not inherently born with information about jesus. congenital religious belief structures is not a thing.

i hope this helps to clarify for some of the confused posters.

 


 

 

 

 

 

I like the way you worded things

 

 

10/31/19 7:51 AM
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Atheists aka neckbeards commit suicide. That's what they do. Bye

10/31/19 8:25 AM
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Atheists aka neckbeards commit suicide. That's what they do. Bye

Lol i see through you. Youre terrified youre wrong. Deep down you doubt your faith. You know youre a brainwashed fool, thats why youre mad.

10/31/19 8:41 AM
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no christian has ever committed suicide. 

except jesus.

10/31/19 9:29 AM
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El_Geronimo_de_Gato -

no christian has ever committed suicide. 

except jesus.

Yea, if you believe the story, he just sacrificed himself to himself for about 36-48 hours, not 3 days as the claim goes. 

10/31/19 1:23 PM
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no christian has ever committed suicide. 

except jesus.

Yea, if you believe the story, he just sacrificed himself to himself for about 36-48 hours, not 3 days as the claim goes. 

Why 36-48 hrs?