Coach: Condit Fight of the Night not worth it
Greg Jackson is as self-effacing as it comes, but for reasons that have nothing to do with him, he has received more attention than co-head coach Mike Winkeljohn. However, the world is starting to realize that both are among the best in the world. The extreme success that gym enjoys may be due to the simple fact that there are two, not one great coaches in the facility.
Coach Wink spoke recently with Submission Radio about his student Holly Holm, who he took to world titles in boxing and in MMA, making her arguably the female combat sports G.O.A.T. He also discussed student Carlos Condit, who recently lost to UFC welterweight champion Robbie Lawler, via controversial split decision.
If Coach Wink thinks that Holm has beaten the toughest competitor in the division now that she beat Ronda Rousey.
“No. It was the hardest in that she was up against this legendary status and the pressure was incredible that way – although, being the underdog takes a lot of pressure off you. But there’s different styles out there. Miesha Tate is gonna scramble all day long, where Ronda was gonna try to get quick submissions. There’s a difference how that plays out. So in many ways, Miesha Tate is more dangerous than Ronda Rousey.
“There’s a lot of girls in the division that have a lot of things. You know, Sara McMann hits so hard. You know, Amanda Nunes is incredible, and Julianna Pena’s good. There’s a lot of girls out there that can really fight, and styles make fights. It’s one of those things where we have to kind of be prepared for the person we’re fighting.”
If stylistically there is a tougher match up for Holly Holm than Ronda Rousey.
“No, not for overall fighting, but for different parts of the fight there are women out there that can be tougher than Ronda Rousey. You know, in the scramble I think Miesha Tate is better than Ronda Rousey.”
If Holm could still fight in March and UFC 200.
“I hope so. You know, that’s Holly. She has fought five times in one year, so she’s active. She has that Cowboy Cerrone mentality where she just wants to fight and get through this thing.”
“She likes to fight. So in a perfect world, that’d be fantastic. Let’s have her fight, go fight whoever they give us. Show the world that it’s not one-and-done with Holly Holm, that she can destroy the next person. And then, if Ronda has the guts to do it again, let’s do it again for some big money. And that’s great for those girls.”
Why Coach Wink thought Carlos Condit won the much-debated third round against Robbie Lawler.
“Oh definitely the number of strikes, the number of times he’s kicking him. Carlos was getting a lot of damage done with his front kicks and his leg kicks and his straight-type of kicks to the legs, and those were taking a toll on Robbie. They were hurting Robbie throughout the fight. So I thought it was definitely the volume thing that was making a big difference in the fight.”
If Carlos deserves a rematch against Lawler.
“Yes. No doubt about it. It was one of the best fights of all time and I think everybody wants to see it. I think that’s it. I have not spoken to Carlos about what he wants to do, I just gave him a little bit of time off. I’m just checking to make sure he’s feeling ok, but I definitely think Carlos deserves a rematch. Who wouldn’t them to rematch? It’d be incredible.”
If Carlos spoke to Wink about retirement before going into UFC 195.
“No, it wouldn’t have shocked me in the slightest. You know what, Carlos is very, very smart about the game and about taking damage to your head especially, as well as your whole body and living a good life afterwards. We’ve always had that conversation that we wanna…we’d like to not get hit as much in our fights. We don’t want to win ‘fight of the night’. That happened to be fight of the night, which totally sucks, because there is a lot of brain damage going on, and it’s definitely not worth fifty thousand dollars for that individual. Fans love it, everybody else loves it, but you pay for it. Hopefully you don’t, but you might be paying for that later in life. But we’ve had that conversation many times before, where Carlos has thought, you know, ‘I’d like to get out of this and go forward in my life and be there for my family’. He’s real smart that way. He understands there’s more important things in life than just punching other people in the face.”
On believing that Carlos would retire on top even if he won the title, instead of sticking around.
“I think he would consider retiring soon after, and for good reason. Again, like I said, he’s one of the smart guys that, after winning the title, we haven’t had that exact conversation, but I can guarantee you that he was the guy that he was gonna win some fights and leave at the top. He was smart enough to do that, versus almost everybody else, who had the tendance to lose the title, never get it back, keep fighting, keep getting hurt, win a fight here and there, you know, lose a whole bunch of fights, take damage when it’s over. I think Carlos is smart enough that he would just stop at the top.”